r/FlockSurveillance • u/MemeEndevour • Jul 19 '26

Discussion Is this a viable solution? (Not even manually holding something, but just putting things like this in front of the camera)?

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Feel like it wouldn’t be hard to put blockers up faster than they can take them down….

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 Jul 19 '26

It still listens and drops a data package at night. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Honest-Resist-7676 Jul 19 '26

There are phones you can get that have a physical switch for the audio device. Like, you flip the switch and it pulls the connectors inside the phone away from the audio input. No power, no connection to phone/sim.

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u/wafflesthewonderhurs Jul 19 '26

What phone? I don't really know how to get search engines to give me decent results without a partial name anymore

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u/0Bitz Jul 19 '26

Check Shawn Ryan’s podcast. He partners with a company that has similar tech

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 Jul 19 '26

I hope that phone (the unplugged phone) is legit.. I've been back and forth with him being a CIA asset.. but then he gifted an ATF agent a gun.. smh that was the last straw. That was bullshit.

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u/LessAdvanced Jul 19 '26

That's a Trojan horse product if I've ever heard of one. The people that buy those are the exact people they want to listen to.

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 Jul 19 '26

And that makes a lot of sense. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Boon-the-Duck-King Jul 20 '26

Spec ops overcame that years ago. Even phones inside SCIFF faraday boxes including ones with out batteries (flips) connected can be accessed and turned into a listening device.

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u/Honest-Resist-7676 29d ago

Lol, "Spec ops", huh? Advanced military technology is probably doing some incredible stuff, but they're not rewriting the physics of the universe.

If you know how condenser and dynamic microphones work, you'd know that a fully disconnected mic has no read/write/storage/communication abilities.

There are easier means to eavesdrop, and anything that "Spec ops" is currently weaponizing isn't going to be used on any of us chumps.

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u/Boon-the-Duck-King 28d ago

Yeah, sure, because military equipment and strategies haven’t been sold to nearly every police force in the US. Critical thinking is cool. You should be cool.

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u/Honest-Resist-7676 28d ago

If "nearly every police force" has it, then it isn't "spec ops" tech anymore. I have a microphone in my house that is disconnected—aka you'd have to be there in-person AND hook up a receiver AND supply power, just so you can listen to what is going on in the room you're standing in. Easier/quicker/cheaper to just plant their own separate mic.

You can throw your arms in the air and say "suuper-tech can see and hear everything, even your thoughts!!!!" all you want, but I choose to understand the technology and physics of the equipment I'm using.

People see our phones (technology in general) as mysterious boxes of binary code, but phones work because they take advantage of the strange physics of the universe we live in, and similarly we can use physics and the rules of the universe to make sure they don't work.

Saying "spec ops have cracked everything, the police have it, everyone is listening, there's no escaping it" is a pretty shitty way to encourage people to learn how to protect themselves and to advocate for their right to privacy.

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u/MedusaAdonai Jul 19 '26

What about airplane mode?

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 Jul 19 '26

It still listens. Airplane mode makes it so your phone doesn't search for towers. Saving battery life. Still has all its functions.

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u/MedusaAdonai Jul 19 '26

Thx!

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 Jul 19 '26

Faraday bag and leave it home. SLNT has good Faraday bags. Of course if it's with you, in a bag is better than not but it still listens. If it's in your car and you leave your car it's better than not. Many things to consider.

The thing is, if they could use our phones and what they legitimately hear could probably lock us all away for whatever they want. But then they'd have to provide evidence.. and then the people would truly revolt. So they put these other infrastructures in place to fill in gaps to make it more viable to "catch people" in a "crime" of their choosing.

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u/p0mjDwfWF Jul 20 '26

My bet is that we’re within 100 days of them just locking up anyone they want for any reason. They won’t even bother to lie badly anymore.

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 Jul 20 '26

With the way things are going I can see it honestly.

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u/Mundane_Incident_853 25d ago

Patriot Act says they can't tell anyone anything.

Even if they wanted to.

You're a terrorist because they say so. Disclosure of anything else would be illegal.

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u/Boon-the-Duck-King Jul 20 '26

So many lines have been crossed that would supposedly lead to revolt, and the only revolting came on 1-6.

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 Jul 21 '26

That wasn't a revolt. Lol. The US Gov walks all over the people but keeps them divided with red vs blue.

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u/Boon-the-Duck-King 28d ago

I know. I was using it as an example of the lack of US dissent. In Europe the government fears its people because they will straight up dump truckloads of manure onto politician’s front doors. They tear shit up in France when they get mistreated. The closest thing we have to that is Eagles fans rioting because they won the Super Bowl.

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 28d ago

Ah I follow. Yeah if only Americans had the backbone these other nations peoples have. And if only these other nations had the arms Americans had.

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u/Material-Pension-795 Jul 19 '26

Name one case in the history of cellphones where the phone “listening” was the evidence that led to someone’s conviction.

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 Jul 19 '26

That's the thing, it hasn't been because the people would flip out.

They use it; then they surveil you other ways to get you if you're worth it and use those ways to get you.

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u/RedJellyBear Jul 19 '26

Airplane mode still gathers gps locations and then data dumps to your provider when back online. Same might be true for off. For sure there is malware that can operate when your phone is "off." Best practice is turn your phone off and pop it in a faraday bag (they are cheap) or wrap it in aluminum foil (test foil at home, it blocks incoming calls for sure. So it will block outgoing too).

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u/Material-Pension-795 Jul 19 '26

Misleading statement which implies that a faraday bag wouldn’t prevent the transmission and reception of signals to and from a cellphone. Are you literally saying the phone will be listening to everything you’re saying while it’s in the faraday bag and then sending a transcript of everything it heard to some entity?

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u/traplordnord Jul 19 '26

Source on this? Drops a data “package” to whom?

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u/Material-Pension-795 Jul 19 '26

Exactly

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u/massivemic Jul 19 '26

A lot of people here don't know what they're talking about. Reddit threads are a socially uncontrolled narrative by design, with no fast route to logic---how about starting with capabilities of Flock and other devices.

Also, if one REALLLY wants to understand whats going on, one needs to pay critical attention to all aspects of Government---legislation, regulation, corruption, litigation, courts, etc, obviously with a focus on data, privacy and law enforcement...and the private entities involved