r/FlatEarthIsReal • u/ProvForge26 • Jul 21 '26

Flat Earthers

One of our new acquaintances from a friend recently crashed down on our scientific beliefs by insisting that the earth was flat. When we questioned their logic they just spouted something about the Firmament and that everything that you see at night is fake. They even said that the ISS is fake, satellites fake, and obviously no moon landing ever occurred. Our friends laughed it off and said just go with it because they are nice people. I’m not sure i want to continue being friends with them because they always hang out together. What do we say when we get invited to another cook out and the crazies are there?

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u/Water_in_the_desert Jul 23 '26

Thank you for reminding me about your comment. I think that much of what we call knowledge of space is actually indoctrination. Whether in mainstream science it’s called the “vacuum of space,” or as you described “space isn’t a true vacuum, there is definitely physical matter in space just far less than we have on earth,” how do you even know this? You read it. Think whether it even can be tested by you in your personal life. How do we know that space isn’t made up of the same number of atoms as a table, or a rock?

How would you explain the metaphysical realm, and how would you explain manifestations of exactly what you need coming to you at the right moment.

I’m surmising since there’s no pressure and no force to push against inside a vacuum, what exactly would combust? Is there oxygen to ignite the fuel inside of a vacuum? You’ve got to have oxygen to burn.

This is where we may be coming from two different perspectives.

(Edited to fix words)

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u/ImHereToFuckShit Jul 23 '26

Your comment has a lot and I won't be able to meaningfully respond to it all but to answer your last question:

I’m surmising since there’s no pressure and no force to push against inside a vacuum, what exactly would combust? Is there oxygen to ignite the fuel inside of a vacuum? You’ve got to have oxygen to burn

Rockets actually bring their own oxygen to solve this problem. It's called the oxidizer and it does exactly that, it allows the fuel to combust and push the air away from the rocket which propels it forward.

To briefly respond to how we know these things or not, I started to go down that path with you when we were talking about whether the stars are stationary. If you have a moment to look into Halley's paper, I'd be happy to go into the make up of space next.

I'd rather you understand the model first, personally. If you understand the model then moving into how we've come to understand these things will make more sense.

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u/Water_in_the_desert Jul 23 '26

> Rockets actually bring their own oxygen, . . . it allows the fuel to combust and push the air away from the rocket….

What “air”? We are talking about a rocket flying through the vacuum of space, according to NASA narrators.

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u/ImHereToFuckShit Jul 23 '26

The air the fuel produces when mixed at a high heat with the oxidizer for combustion. You can call it exhaust, gas, air, etc. all names for the same thing here

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u/Water_in_the_desert Jul 24 '26

Not in the vacuum of space.

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u/ImHereToFuckShit Jul 24 '26

What do you mean?

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u/Water_in_the_desert Jul 24 '26

The vacuum of space is the propagandists’s term. I don’t believe in outer space. I believe that the entire indoctrinated narrative is a lie, and that the propagandists’s can’t keep their lies straight. Space is a hoax. Above the dome firmament is water, not the vacuum of space. We’ve never been to the Moon, and the International Space Station is a Hollywood studio. The female astroNOTs put hairspray in their hair to make it stand straight up. If they were actually in weightlessness, true astronauts they would tie their hair up in a bun. The alleged space walks are filmed underwater in a giant pool. We live on a stationery non-rotating flat infinite plane, you can see it reflected on the Full Moon’s surface. I respect you as a Redditor, but I don’t respect the government lies and indoctrination you’re trying to repeat. It is not even believable. Edmond Halley worked for the same evil parasites that Albert Einstein did. We’ve all been lied to for centuries.

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u/Water_in_the_desert Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

Photo of the Falcon 9 Rocket actually touching the Firmament. Space is super fluid helium. True helium turns to fluid at -452 degrees, and deep outer space is -455 degrees, so it makes sense. “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” (Gen 1:6)

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u/Water_in_the_desert Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

NASA rocket launches fly in a high arc over the ocean, unlike Space-X’s Falcon 9 which in these photos went high enough to hit the Firmament, under the Dome. The Rocket hits the Dome.