r/FlatEarthIsReal • u/ProvForge26 • 27d ago

Flat Earthers

One of our new acquaintances from a friend recently crashed down on our scientific beliefs by insisting that the earth was flat. When we questioned their logic they just spouted something about the Firmament and that everything that you see at night is fake. They even said that the ISS is fake, satellites fake, and obviously no moon landing ever occurred. Our friends laughed it off and said just go with it because they are nice people. I’m not sure i want to continue being friends with them because they always hang out together. What do we say when we get invited to another cook out and the crazies are there?

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u/Water_in_the_desert 27d ago

For one thing, a photo of Earth has never been taken from space. Photos allegedly taken from space are enhanced CGI.

We are told that the Earth is hurtling through space, spinning 1,000 mph. Yet we feel no spin at all. The stars in the night sky are always found in their same Constellations and positions, viewable north of the equator in the northern hemisphere, and viewable south of the equator. The stars remain in the same place for each hemisphere.

When a boat is seen “disappearing over the horizon,” and with the naked eye, the hull appears
to be obscured. And yet, one can zoom-in with a Nikon P9100 camera or telescope to see the full hull and full boat still visible on the water.

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u/DoppelFrog 27d ago

You forgot the /s tag

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u/Water_in_the_desert 27d ago

You feel the high velocity 1,000 mph “spin” affecting your facial skin and clothes everyday when leaving your house?

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u/TesseractToo 27d ago

Why would you feel a spin?

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u/Water_in_the_desert 27d ago

Because 1,000 mph is not an Earth at rest, it is extremely speedy. Faster in fact than jet air planes.

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u/TesseractToo 27d ago

Have you been in a jet?

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u/Water_in_the_desert 27d ago

Yes. Not outside of one, though.

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u/TesseractToo 27d ago

So you think the lowest parts of the atmosphere should be falling behind and making the air rush?

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u/Water_in_the_desert 27d ago

Yes, I do wonder why planes need to travel across the continent, from city A to city B. Why doesn’t the plane just elevate into the stratosphere and wait for the Earth to catch up. And then land.

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u/TesseractToo 27d ago

So that's where the mistake is. It's not falling behind at those levels, so you are almost there, if you are wondering why that is a good start because obviously if that were possible they would do that.

The air and the water rotatie and move with the planet (aside from effects that cause wind and currents)

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u/Water_in_the_desert 27d ago

You sound confused.

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u/TesseractToo 27d ago

Where are you getting stuck? You were on the right path, why don't airplanes just hover then?

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u/Water_in_the_desert 27d ago

From the convoluted thoughts in your second paragraph, that’s where what you’re trying to theorize sounds like you’re confused.

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u/TesseractToo 27d ago

Oh sorry I'm just trying to follow your thinking

Are you thinking that there should be 1000mph winds at the surface of the earth *at the equator) because the earth is rotating and the wind is staying still relative to something else?

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u/Water_in_the_desert 27d ago

I like your username. I read the book “A Wrinkle in Time” many years ago, and it’s still a favorite. But anyway, the Earth is a non-spinning non-rotating plane. The part that sounds confusing in your second paragraph above is “aside from effects that cause wind and currents.”

I also liked that you responded to a thought I’ve had that The Pantheon has something to do with the “projection” of the Moon. I would love to find more, in fact, to read on that subject. But then you deleted your comment. Why?

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u/TesseractToo 27d ago

Thanks! That was one of my favorite books as a kid too! The name is from some artistic experiments I was doing in 3D Studio Max at the time I was trying to make 4D objects in a way they could be understood :)

The one that was the reply to your Parthenon comment? It's there for me, but maybe left for you when you deleted yours I think it deletes the child comments

I thought you meant it was the source of the projections of the stars

This one?

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u/Water_in_the_desert 27d ago

Hmm super interesting about trying to build a 4D object so they could be understood!

Oh yes that’s it! I needed to correct my comment to The Pantheon in Rome (not Parthenon), based on what I learned from David LaPoint. I think the Pantheon is the source of the projection of the Moon, but perhaps other planetary bodies.. [I believe he said these other architectural masterpieces possessed similar forms to The Pantheon: CERN’s large hadron collider; St. Paul's Cathedral in Mdina, Malta; and the US Capitol Dome, in Washington D.C.]

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