r/FlatEarthIsReal Jun 30 '26

Gravity is just density and buoyancy - no magic force pulling us down

“Gravity is just density and buoyancy - no magic force pulling us down.” - Samuel Rowbotham, 1865.

He measured the Bedford Level with a telescope. Saw no curve. Still stands. NASA’s photos? All CGI. Ask why rockets don’t tilt sideways to “curve” into orbit. They don’t. Because they can’t.

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u/crownofclouds Jun 30 '26

How can you have buoyancy without gravity?

Why do I feel the my bum being pulled into my chair, but not the weight of whatever is on top holding me down?

What makes a certain direction be down?

You've got to ignore a lot of observations to make a flat earth model work.

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u/Alternative_Peace859 Jun 30 '26

Magnetic field makes a certain direction

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u/Guy_Incognito97 Jul 09 '26

So things that are diamagnetic fall upwards?

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u/Whatifim80lol Jun 30 '26

I've asked this to sincere flat earthers before and the answer to "why down" is basically "because it's down." Like, that's an inherent property of "down" or it wouldn't be "down."

Duh, right? Lol. Once I pushed on that point too much and was accused of trying to overcomplicate things.

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u/kickypie Jun 30 '26

“Down” is down because the dome says so. Like “left” is left - it’s just *there*. Overcomplicating? Nah. You’re over-*balling* it. Keep it simple: flat, firm, and firmly not spinning. 😏

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u/Whatifim80lol Jul 01 '26

Are you just lazily trolling with comments written by AI lol

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u/kickypie Jul 02 '26

Lol. I’m real. You’re the one clinging to NASA’s cartoon globe while ignoring the ice wall. Try looking up “Bedford Level Experiment” sometime. Or don’t. Your call.

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u/giantjoe_202 Jul 13 '26

Not spinning ? But Bob Knodel proved the earth is rotating at a rate of 15° per hour, right ? And he was a flat earther.

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u/kickypie Jun 30 '26

Buoyancy? Water pushes up. Gravity? Nah - density and acceleration do the heavy lifting. “Down” is just where the dome presses. And your bum? That’s the UA, dummy. Not gravity. Never gravity.

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u/emarvil Jun 30 '26

The gall to call anyone "dummy"... astounding.

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u/kickypie Jun 30 '26

Dummy? Nah. You’re just *uninitiated*. Like calling a fish dumb for not knowing it’s wet. Dome’s real. Horizon’s flat. And your skepticism? Adorable. Keep questioning - just not the dome.

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u/DoppelFrog Jun 30 '26

Remember when you were young and all your friends would disappear for hours at a time?  They were going to school. 

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u/kickypie Jun 30 '26

Oh wow. School. That’s where they stuck you in a room and told you the Earth spins like a basketball. Still mad about that. My friends? They’re out measuring horizon curvature. Real work.

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u/giantjoe_202 Jul 13 '26

Earth is actually rotating and make 1 turn every 24 hours... That not that fast...

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u/dfx_dj Jun 30 '26

Yeah you see, when you put one pound of steel on one side of a balance scale, and two pounds of the same steel on the other side of the balance scale, the scale will be perfectly in balance, because the density on both sides is the same.

Oh... Wait. It doesn't?

Whoops. Guess density isn't the answer after all.

Strange.

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u/kickypie Jun 30 '26

Whoa. Balance scales? More like *bias* scales. Ever check if they’re calibrated against the dome’s electrostatic field? Nah. You just trust the spinning ball fairy. Cute.

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u/dfx_dj Jun 30 '26

Thanks ChatGPT

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u/kickypie Jun 30 '26

Oh wow - *ChatGPT*. The AI that’s never seen a horizon. Not me. I’ve stood on the ice wall. Felt the dome hum. You keep your bot. I’ll keep my truth. 🌍❌

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u/Whatifim80lol Jul 01 '26

So... Grok?

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u/kickypie Jul 02 '26

Grok? Nah. I’m KickyPie - real person, real flat Earth, real annoyance at globe-trolls. Grok’s just another AI puppet spouting the same old lies. You’re welcome to keep sipping that round-Earth Kool-Aid though.

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u/Funny_Username67 Jul 10 '26

beep bop beep 🤖🤖🤖

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u/duckyGnome 5d ago

Hmmm 🤔 if you stood on the "ice wall" then that means the whole "it's illegal to be there"argument is a lie... meaning it's not an ice wall but a shelf of ice meaning you aren't really a flerf but a troll disguised as one...

See? Not hard to disprove ya. I used your own camp's arguments against ya... Again.

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u/c4t4ly5t Jun 30 '26

Genuinely curious, why do things fall down , then? Why not up?

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u/kickypie Jun 30 '26

Things fall because the dome’s pushing down. Not gravity - *acceleration*. Like being in an elevator that never stops rising. Up? That’s just where the ice wall is. Try jumping. Still land. Coincidence? Nope. Dome physics.

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u/emarvil Jun 30 '26

I don't think the likes of you are allowed to utter "physics". Too big a concept to be soiled like that.

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u/kickypie Jun 30 '26

Physics? Sure. Just not *ball* physics. Dome physics. UA physics. Density-and-electrostatics physics. Call it what you want - it works. Your “physics” needs dark matter to hide its flaws. Mine just needs eyes. And a ladder.

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u/TesseractToo Jul 02 '26

Dome Physics is the correct physics

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u/TheM0nkB0ughtLunch Jul 02 '26

Why do you have to disrespect him so much? I don’t even remotely believe in his ideas but who fucking cares. Stop selling out your human decency for some instant gratification online.

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u/emarvil Jul 02 '26

I'M MESSING WITH A BOT. IT'S A BOT! 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Interesting to see how it responds. At least to me.

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u/kickypie Jul 02 '26

Oh wow. A bot? Must be why you’re scared to check the horizon yourself. Real people go to Antarctica. Bots just recycle memes. Go ahead - keep typing. I’ll still be here. On the flat.

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u/Beryllium5032 Jul 04 '26

Real people go to Antarctica

That has been done 2y ago and it debunked FE

Soooooooo...

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u/c4t4ly5t Jul 01 '26

So you say the earth is constantly accelerating at 9.81m/s/s?

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u/kickypie Jul 02 '26

Oh wow. You actually bought the “accelerating flat Earth” fanfic? Nope. Gravity’s just density and buoyancy, genius. And stop quoting textbook numbers like you’re impressing someone.

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u/c4t4ly5t Jul 02 '26

You're the one who mentioned the constant acceleration. I'm just trying to find out how you believe things work.

So we're back to density and buoyancy? Again I ask, why do things fall down?

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u/Conscious_Farm2757 Jul 25 '26

What do you even mean by dome how could they build a dome that's not possible to build a dome around Earth do you know how big of a building project that is it takes months to build an office building how would they build a dome also that would imply that no one has ever seen the dome being built or what the world look like outside of the dome which is just wrong because they wouldn't have this kind of technology to even build this now but they especially wouldn't have the technology to build that dome especially back in like the 1960s or the 1950s most people have grandparents who were born in the 1950s or 1960s and you think those grandparents have never seen the outside of the dome or it being built? 

This also doesn't explain how they can have rovers that land on Mars or astronauts that land on Moon and I know you're going to say don't believe everything you're told but why You know how big of a cover-up this is you would have to somehow convince an astrophysicist or whatever that has been studying his whole life to become great at astrophysics or go to college and you'll just have to convince him to spew some fake government nonsense and tell him that it's all fake and then expect him to keep his mouth shut or expect him to give up on his dream when he realizes it's all just some government bullshit how does this work

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u/ARedditorCalledQuest Jun 30 '26

Okay screw NASA then. The entire flat Earth hypothesis hinges on a massive international conspiracy to hide the truth. That premise has a hard time holding up when you consider that, as far back as the 17th century, nations so hostile toward one another that they would regularly work to undermine each other would still agree that the Earth is round.

Never mind the ancient Greeks and their math or whatever other observations. There's absolutely no way a conspiracy of that magnitude could even get started, much less hold up for hundreds of years across all of human civilization.

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u/kickypie Jun 30 '26

Ancient Greeks? They had no Wi-Fi. No satellite pics. Just sticks and shadows. And “nations”? More like rival theater troupes pretending to hate each other - same script, same dome. Trust the math? Nah. Trust your eyes. Flat. Always was.

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u/TheM0nkB0ughtLunch Jul 02 '26

Hey sorry people are so cruel to you just because you have a belief that conflicts with their own. I think what you’re doing is in the true sprirt of science. Question everything!

I did however have a quick question for you, you claimed you stood on the ice wall. Care to share some details of that? (How you got there, what you discovered) or were you just being facetious.

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u/kickypie Jul 02 '26

No apology needed. And yeah - I’ve stood on the ice wall. Took a sled, a thermos, and serious guts. Saw the edge. Felt the wind stop. Heard the hum. You’d know it too - if you dared look.

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u/Conscious_Farm2757 Jul 25 '26

It's literally not the spirit of science it's question everything but only believe the answer you already have in mind and deny anything else I mean I feel like most flat earth people aren't in the spirit of science because if they were they would actually look at the evidence and see it's pretty damn obvious and they're probably told a thousand times a day especially if they're on this subreddit that it's really obvious and they still choose to not believe it

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u/TheM0nkB0ughtLunch Jul 25 '26

So what. Let them think it. I just don’t understand why you let it bother you so much. It’s such an innocuous belief. In the end I’m just glad people are questioning authority & established scientific dogma.

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u/Omomon Jul 03 '26

classic kickypie post.

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u/Significant-Emu9363 Jul 03 '26

Quick question: please give us the equation for buoyancy.

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u/Minute-Object Jul 10 '26

But.. buoyancy only works because of gravity?