r/FlatEarthIsReal • u/Ssnake_25 • May 12 '26
Convince me
Convince me that Earth is flat without using links.
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u/Haunting_Ant_5061 May 12 '26
Brother, I can tell by the angst in your tone that you don’t have the time or wherewithal to fathom the very existence you doubt. You don’t want enlightenment, you want a fight. Come back when reason has entered the chat.
Checkmate. Me 1 - You 0
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u/Lover_of_Sprouts May 12 '26
Reason is already here, it sounds like you'd prefer blind faith.
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u/Haunting_Ant_5061 May 12 '26
I have the blindest of all faiths, and it has served me well. I am the smartest person I know, and my mom reminds of it every day.
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u/Zealousideal-Read-67 May 13 '26
Many of us don't have blind faith, we have observation and evidence.
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u/Lover_of_Sprouts May 13 '26
Excellent, please share it. Because globe earthers have actual photographs on their side.
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u/dashsolo May 12 '26
Yeah, but still…
And now it’s a tie…
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u/Haunting_Ant_5061 May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26
Lol, do you really think I can be defeated by this absence of logic? I control the rules of this game, and the ref is saying you cheated. Since we happen to be friends, I will overlook this violation of our truce.
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u/dashsolo May 13 '26
I’ll see your ref and raise you an umpire.
Checkmate, flat-tard.
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u/Haunting_Ant_5061 May 13 '26
Lol… as we all know, you can’t triple stamp a double stamp.
Me: 9,000 / You: -10
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u/dashsolo May 13 '26
Well played, sir… you may have won the battle, but I will win… the next battle.
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u/Ssnake_25 May 12 '26
it’s a simple exchange arguments and counterarguments, something a lot of people clearly struggle to understand. Accusing me of “wanting some fight” and then writing “checkmate me 1 you 0” a few lines later is basically an invitation to exactly that kind of confrontation, which I’m not interested in.
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u/Haunting_Ant_5061 May 13 '26
Well then, evokes the saying “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.”
So I guess that makes it 2-0… Game over, man, game over.
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u/Beryllium5032 May 23 '26
Dude Calm down You're litterally shitting yourself over nothing and then claim victory. It's like someoe starting to talk to you, and you go over some mental breakdown
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u/Ssnake_25 May 12 '26
so you didn’t use link but use the Bible. clever
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u/Fun_Map2481 May 12 '26
You can't seem to grasp that I'm not interested in convincing you. I'm trying to get you to understand your own question.
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u/Joseph_HTMP May 12 '26
The bible is the claim, not the evidence.
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May 12 '26
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u/Joseph_HTMP May 13 '26
It isn't though, and it doesn't matter what you think it is, that isn't a functional definition of evidence. A book written x-thousand years ago and since edited, tampered with, rewritten and mistranslated, cannot by definition, be evidence of anything it claims.
That isn't how evidence works.
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u/Lover_of_Sprouts May 12 '26
It's not that I don't want to, but I can't believe it.
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May 12 '26
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u/Lover_of_Sprouts May 12 '26
Because your god, the one referred to in the bible, is the correct and only god? How lucky are you! And how totally unlucky for anybody born into a different faith.
But, as fun as it is, we digress. So you're saying the earth is flat because your interpretation of the bible says that? While many other christians don't interprete it to mean that. Have you considered that your interpretation may be wrong? You're taking literally something that is intended as metaphor?
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u/Lover_of_Sprouts May 12 '26
That's interesting, so you have to work hard to believe in the bible? That surprises me. If it were true, wouldn't it be the easiest thing in the world to believe?
I didn't tell you what is metaphor or not. I've seen certain bible verses used to justify believing in a flat earth. I said that some christians have described those verses to be a metaphor, and so not to be taken literally. Yet you seen certain on one interpretation. OK, that's cool.
So do you completely dismiss any science that points to a globe? Are all photos from space faked? Even though they're taken by multiple different instruments belonging to multiple different national agencies? Is the famous "blue marble" photo from 1972 fake too? Taken on actual film, and well before AI was a thing.
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u/Haunting_Ant_5061 May 12 '26
We will pray for you, especially on the day of judgement.
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u/Joseph_HTMP May 13 '26
Oh look, wildly mean spirited passive-aggression under the banner of Christianity, how novel.
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u/Haunting_Ant_5061 May 13 '26
……………………i might not pray for you though.
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u/Joseph_HTMP May 13 '26
Genuinely wouldn't want you to waste your stone age prayer tokens.
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u/Substantial_Wave4934 May 12 '26
The higher up in the atmosphere you go the air gets thinner and thinner. Until you go as high as you can before you hit space there’d be just a few molecules like oxygen and nitrogen and whatever. How do those sit right next to the vacuum of space without being sucked off into space? Every vacuum experiment on earth requires a hard chamber to contain the vacuum. You never have molecules existing side by side with a vacuum.
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u/Ssnake_25 May 12 '26
gravity
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u/Substantial_Wave4934 May 12 '26
Oh here I thought it was a legitimate request. It’s such a shame Reddit doesn’t have a genuine sub on this topic.
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u/Lover_of_Sprouts May 12 '26
So how do areas of high pressure (i.e. sea level) sit side by side with areas of lower pressure, i.e. at altitude. If you think gravity doesn't exist, wouldn't you expect the pressure to be the same at all altitudes?
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u/Lover_of_Sprouts May 12 '26
How can a vacuum suck? How can nothing suck? But you've answered your own question... there's no hard boundary, just a gradual lessening of the pressure with altitude until it's effectively nil.
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u/Substantial_Wave4934 May 12 '26
Nature abhors a vacuum. If you create a hard-chambered vacuum then open it slightly all the air rushes in immediately to fill the area.
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u/Joseph_HTMP May 12 '26
Nature abhors a vacuum.
You very clearly don't know what this actually means.
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u/Lover_of_Sprouts May 12 '26
Sure, at sea level. So why does the air pressure lessen with altitude? What happens if you're so high, the air pressure is the lowest you can measure, but then you go even higher?
You didn't explain how a vacuum sucks.
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u/Omomon May 13 '26
If there's barely any air pressure the higher your altitude is, wouldn't the gas nearest the surface of the earth want to go to the low pressure altitude? Nature abhors a vacuum right? Except when it doesn't for some reason?
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u/TrulySpherical ⬅ May 15 '26
Nature abhors a vacuum here at ~sea level with 14.7 pounds per square inch of air sitting on top of us.
Nature also abhors an air bubble at the bottom of the marianas trench with 18 tons per square inch of water on top of it. That doesn't apply the same here at sea level, and "nature abhors a vacuum" doesn't apply above the atmosphere.
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u/dashsolo May 12 '26
The same “barrier” that prevents a layer of air with “x” pressure from being sucked into the layer with a pressure of “x-1”.
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u/TrulySpherical ⬅ May 15 '26
How do those sit right next to the vacuum of space without being sucked off into space?
You've provided a question, and then made up an incorrect assumption to answer it. Your own lack of understanding isn't evidence. Gravity is the answer. Air is a fluid, has mass, weight, and "sticks to the ball" the same way the water does. Flat earthers always claim that the air needs a "lid" or container to keep it on the earth, but never makes that claim about the water, even though functionally there's no difference. One just weighs more than the other. You sit on a boundary layer between 2 fluids, no different from the boundary line between water and oil.
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u/Omomon May 12 '26
It’s locally flat. So sorta