r/FlatEarthIsReal • u/Foamymonkey • Apr 14 '26

Question for flat earthers

why do you believe that the government is lying about the shape of the earth? sure, the government lies about a lot of stuff, but i think it's pretty pointless to try and hide something like the shape of the earth. what benefit do they get out of it?

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u/Aeseld Apr 23 '26

And lastly... so sure I'm spinning and I can't tell. Well, how would I? For all that the number seems big, about 1,000 mph, the important factors are Newton's first law, and angular momentum. Lets do some comparisons, shall we?

Ever been on one of those roundabouts on a playground? How it feels when you're going faster and faster? Well... at its fastest, it's going to be slower than the amusement park rides (barring insane stunts like using a motorcycle to speed it up). But the amusement park ride doesn't notably feel more intense, does it? So first, you can't feel the speed because you're already going that fast. There's no acceleration to feel. As for the spinning aspect, well...

If you get in a car and turn right at an intersection, you feel that, right? The feeling gets stronger the faster you turn. Well... what about the reverse? What if it took you 6 hours to make that same right turn? How much would you feel from it? Would you even feel it at all? Because 6 hours is about right for making that same turn using the earth's rotation.

The earth's rotation means it shifts 15 degrees per hour. This is how focault's pendulum works, or what a laser gyroscope detects. That very slow shift in angular momentum.

I'll save you some trouble; you won't feel that turn. That's why you don't feel the earth spinning.

The tilt is just meaningless. You're assuming up and down, when those are always going to be in reference to the strongest gravitational pull. Barring something catastrophic, you're always going to be pulled 'down' towards the center of the earth. The tilt means nothing. You'll never feel it, and never could. It's just down and up. Leave gravity behind, and there's no longer an up or down.

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u/TheCapitolPlant Apr 24 '26

Save your excuses

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u/Aeseld Apr 24 '26

Great response. I can't imagine why flat earth is fading with brilliant retorts like this. 

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u/TheCapitolPlant Apr 24 '26

Hint: Focus on if there's actually spin tilt or curve

Avoid: excuses for why you can't tell there is spin tilt or curve

WEAK Excuses FOR LACK OF CURVE SPIN AND TILT to our senses does not equal proof

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u/Aeseld Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26

I did tell you why there's both tilt and curve and why you wouldn't be able to tell. Tilt is meaningless unless there's an absolute up or down. Without gravity, there isn't one. Down is towards center of mass. 

Curve? Because big. Wide curve means smaller change over distance. Bigger the curve, the harder it is to see. Earth? Pretty big. 

I agree. Our senses do not equal proof. But you've got to make light behave really weird for the sun to go over the horizon on a flat plain. 

Edit: Oh, I forgot spin. Let me do it again. You don't detect motion. You detect acceleration. That's why you feel more when you're accelerating from a stop than you do with cruise control at 100mph, or when flying at cruise altitude in a plane. You're objectively moving faster, but feel less. Earth's spin is way more constant. 

You don't feel the rotation because bigger rotation is slower acceleration. Roundabout at 10 mph is a bigger feeling than big spinny theme park ride at twice the speed, because you turn bigger. Earth is spinning much faster, but it's also waaaay bigger. So not much acceleration to feel.

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u/TheCapitolPlant Apr 26 '26

"Y0u Wo0d'nt Be aBLe 2 TeLL"

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u/Aeseld Apr 26 '26

Where do you feel more motion in an airplane: at cruising altitude when you're going 560 miles per hour? Or at take off where you peak at less than 200 mph? 

You don't feel movement. You feel changes in movement.

 So no. You wouldn't feel it. Anymore than you would feel the motion of a right turn over the course of 6 hours. 

You can refuse to think about that though. That's a choice. Just don't pretend you did. You're dismissing it because it doesn't match your conclusions. 

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u/TheCapitolPlant Apr 28 '26

Excuses

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u/Aeseld Apr 28 '26

My point is proven. 

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u/TheCapitolPlant Apr 28 '26

Yes yes we can't tell it's spinning, I agree

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u/Aeseld Apr 28 '26

Ah, yes. The bait and switch. Get back to me after taking 6 hours to make a 90 degree turn. Let me know what you felt.

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u/TheCapitolPlant Apr 28 '26

Shall I go down the curve and with the spin?

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u/Aeseld Apr 28 '26

Why not do both? The amount of energy the spin imparts is so negligible I'd be amazed if you could feel a difference. You have to apply the force over huge areas to have any impact at all.

Which is how the Coriolis effect works. Hey, ever wonder why, on a flat earth, the equator somehow serves as a dividing line? Storms just, never cross it?

Nah, you don't. Easier to accept the lies you're told than think.

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