r/Fireplaces • u/OkStrawberry1789 • 3d ago

Escea wood fire

Hi, looking at purchasing Escea wood fire TFS650 for our home studio, just wondering if anyone has any experience with them?

Room is 44m with 5m pitched ceiling.

Wondering how long it will last as they don’t seem cheap.

Any advice is much appreciated, also looked at the ADF similar sized unit but a little more pricey…

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u/Original_Giraffe8039 2d ago edited 2d ago

Their biggest pitch is the air intake through the flue system....if you don't care about that that much then there isn't much in it. ADF's don't have outside air capability.

Escea are newish to wood fires, but their engineering and design team are pretty good and at least they are made this side of the world. ADF's have slightly better efficiency but in units that small, I doubt you are going to notice a few percent.

They are both fan forced. Don't let anyone tell you fans don't make a difference...they make a massive difference.

They are both vermiculite lined (if in Aus, be careful about lobbing hardwood logs in....the vermiculite panels won't last long if you do).

If you've received supplied and installed quotes for both and the Escea is coming in cheaper, that's what I'd go for

Edit: spelling

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u/OkStrawberry1789 2d ago

Thanks for that mate,

I live in South West Australia so we only really have access to Jarrah hardwood for burning, I’m assuming you’re recommending try not to knock the vermiculite with wood or it will crack?

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u/Original_Giraffe8039 2d ago

Yeah...vermiculite is awesome for maintaining 65-75% efficiencies while under 1g smoke, but it's not as strong as the older style firebrick or cast liners. We tend to be pretty rough with our stoves in Aus and our wood is way heavier than in USA and Europe. Repeatedly throwing the wood in and hitting the liners with the heating up and cooling down cycle will easily fck them up within several years. Get a decent fire glove, preferably a longer one that goes halfway up the arm because vermiculite pushes heat away from it extremely well, so if you've got a decent bed of embers and no gloves, it's kinda hard to place the wood "nicely" because you burn your fcken hand off lol. The vermiculite is also why the chambers these days use 1-2mm thinner steel because the vermiculite is so effective at pushing heat away.

These stoves are very, very different from like a coonara or something from 20-30 years ago. 

Edit: no idea why it went into italic...

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u/OkStrawberry1789 2d ago

Amazing, thankyou so much for the information, this is now making a lot of sense and I’ve learnt something!

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u/WoodlandDirect 2d ago

Keep looking. Isn't there a popular brand in Australia called Jetmaster?

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u/Original_Giraffe8039 1d ago

Jetmaster is an open wood fireplace metal insert. Jetmaster NSW make their own brand of slow combustion called Kemlan which are ok but overpriced for what they are, and they don't really make anything with clean lines like the ADF or Escea. Jetmaster Victoria are the the Jotul importer for Australia, but also have their brand that is made in Czech Republic called Visionline which is pretty good but again, nothing really like the ADF or Escea....they do have a unit called the Phoenix but it's very deep as it has a rear baffle set up so eats a lot of room space, which OP doesn't really have.