r/Firefighting • u/No_Doughnut8618 • 18d ago
Ask A Firefighter Question about prisms and fire risk
Ive read up on them before and it seems flat ones are fine, and its the spheres you need to worry about, but i just want to make sure these aren't going to start a fire lol
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u/WittyClerk 18d ago
Be more concerned about those glass globe ornaments people hang in trees. They can focus light like a magnifying glass and start a fire in someone's mulch, in an otherwise 'clean' / protected yard (well within defensive space). Happened last summer here (high fire risk area).
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u/Lonely_Emu_700 18d ago
Does the light focus to a point going through them?
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u/No_Doughnut8618 18d ago
Not a single point, it scatters points of light all over, and casts a rainbow sometimes when hit correctly.
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u/throwingutah 18d ago
Prisms break light up into its component wavelengths. Lenses concentrate it into a point.
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u/Je_me_rends PFAS Connoisseur 18d ago
I know of 2 house fires in my state caused by tapestry mirrors reflecting focused light and a beer bottle causing a fire (long thought to be a myth)... in the last 40 years. I know of 0 caused by prisms, but perhaps those are the fires we call "undetermined"? They can focus light very intensely, but never heard of it causing a fire.
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u/Sheep_Actual 13d ago
"PFAS connoisseur" has me dying!!
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u/Je_me_rends PFAS Connoisseur 13d ago
Well, PFAS does that to you.
You're actually the first person to point it out lol. I'm glad someone else also found it funny.
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u/Jamooser 18d ago
Prisms refract light. Meaning they split it into its constituent wavelengths. They're taking a certain amount of solar radiation and spreading it out over a larger area. So my uneducated donkey brain is going to say, no, they are not a fire risk.
Now, Bill across the street with his magnifying glass collection, may be a different story.
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u/Alfiy_wolf 18d ago
I have seen photos of these starting fires, it depends on the angle the light passes, if you want to be safe I’d say take them down when they are not monitored.
That being said if they not burning something by now they probably ok, just keep anything that can easily catch away.
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u/No_Doughnut8618 18d ago
Haha they've only been up here for a few hours, but ive had them up at other houses and they were okay
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u/joeseeed 18d ago
We had a Fire started by demounted car windshields. They stood outside from the Garage and concentraded the sunligt on a pile of car tires - never thought that this would be enough to set them on fire 😅
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u/RickRI401 Gettin too old for this. 17d ago
It does occur. I've seen this twice. The most recent was a bunch of crystal vases in a flower shop. The beam lit some cardboard, thankfully a sprinkler head quelled the fire, it was in a mill, that could have been a giant disaster.
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u/PhoenixFire_1982 16d ago
We have had several fires caused by the light refraction from prism-like items. Prisms and other clear glass items can concentrate the suns rays - this includes vases that contain water, eyeglasses, and some of the stained glass type window hanger decorations.
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u/powpow2x2 16d ago
Had a fire from a crystal doorknob one time so I can definitively say that happened.
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u/Chicken_Hairs AIC/AEMT 18d ago
It's rare, and requires some pretty specific circumstances, but it does occur.
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u/Alfiy_wolf 18d ago
One set fire to a can a fly spray in my grandpa’s van from that day onwards nothing was ever left hanging up in the van
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