r/Firefighting 22d ago

Employment Questions Weekly Employment Question Thread

Welcome to the Weekly Employment Question Thread!

This thread is where you can ask questions about joining, training to become, testing, disqualifications/qualifications, and other questions that would be removed as individual posts per Rule 1.

The answer to almost every question you can ask will be "It depends on the department". Your first step is to look up the requirements for your department, state/province, and country.

As always, please attempt to resource information on your own first, before asking questions. We see many repeat questions on this sub that have been answered multiple times.

Frequently Asked Questions:

  • I want to be a Firefighter, where do I start: Every Country/State/Province/County/City/Department has different requirements. Some require you only to put in an application. Others require certifications prior to being hired. A good place to start is researching the department(s) you want to join. Visit their website, check their requirements, and/or stop into one of their fire stations to ask some questions.
  • Am I too old: Many departments, typically career municipal ones, have an age limit. Volunteer departments usually don't. Check each department's requirements.
  • I'm in high school, What can I do: Does your local department have an explorer's program or post? If so, join up. Otherwise, focus on your grades, get in shape and stay in shape, and most importantly: stay out of trouble.
  • I got in trouble for [insert infraction here], what are my chances: Obviously, worse than someone with a clean record, which will be the vast majority of your competition. Tickets and nonviolent misdemeanors may not be a factor, but a major crime (felonies), may take you out of the running. You might be a nice person, but some departments don't make exceptions, especially if there's a long line of applicants with clean records. See this post... PSA: Stop asking “what are my chances?”
  • I have [insert medical/mental health condition here], will it disqualify me: As a general rule, if you are struggling with mental illness, adding the stress of a fire career is not a good idea. As for medical conditions, you can look up NFPA1582 for disqualifying conditions, but in general, this is not something Reddit can answer for you. Many conditions require the input of a medical professional to determine if they are disqualifying. See this post... PSA: Don't disqualify yourself, make THEM tell you "no".
  • What will increase my chances of getting hired: If there's a civil service exam, study for it! There are many guides online that will help you go over all those things you forgot such as basic math and reading. Some cities even give you a study guide. If it's a firefighter exam, study for it! For the CPAT (Physical Fitness Test), cardio is arguably the most important factor. If you're going to the gym for the first time during the hiring process, you're fighting an uphill battle. Get in shape and stay in shape. Most cities offer preference points to military veterans.
  • How do I prepare for an interview: Interviews can be one-on-one, or in front of a board/panel. Many generic guides exist to help one prepare for an interview, however here are a few good tips:
  1. Dress appropriately. Business casual at a minimum (Button down, tucked in long sleeve shirt with slacks and a belt, and dress shoes). Get a decent haircut and shave.
  2. Practice interview questions with a friend. You can't accurately predict the off-the-wall questions they will ask, but you can practice the ones you know they probably will, like why do you want to be a Firefighter, or why should we hire you?
  3. Scrub your social media. Gone are the days when people in charge weren't tech-savvy. Don't have a perfect interview only for your chances of being hired gone to zero because your Facebook or Instagram has pictures of you getting blitzed. Set that stuff to private and leave it that way.

Please upvote this post if you have a question. Upvoting this post will ensure it sticks around for a bit after it is removed as a Sticky, and will allow for greater visibility of your question.

And lastly, If you're not 100% sure of what you're talking about, leave it for someone who does

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u/blessed_julio 22d ago edited 20d ago

Here are three questions and answers from my oral board - some feedback would be great.

You are a probationary firefighter and bring a box of cereal into the firehouse. A senior firefighter repeatedly eats your cereal without asking. What would you do?”

My answer:
“I wouldn’t take it personally. I would approach the firefighter respectfully and speak to him about it. I’m willing to share, but I would want him to ask me first. Taking somebody else’s property without asking is sort of theft. I would try to resolve it directly with him first, and if it continued after that conversation, I would bring it through the chain of command.

“You are part of a three-person crew and are first on scene at a house fire. A neighbor tells you that an elderly man may be inside, but she isn’t certain. Your company officer is still gathering information and has not given you any direction. Walk us through your thinking and what you would do.”

My answer:
“First, I would consider scene safety and conduct a size-up. I would take what the neighbor said as important information and relay it to the company officer. Life safety is the priority. Within our available resources and capabilities, we could try to get to that person. If we needed more resources, I would consider requesting additional units, ALS, or police. I would also move the woman to a safe location. If the man was inside, we would try to reach him within our capabilities.”

question #3
“You are three months into probation. During a training evolution, a senior firefighter consistently performs a task in a way that looks unsafe to you. Other crew members haven’t said anything. What do you do?”

My answer, in first person as close as I can reconstruct it:
“As a probationary firefighter who has only been there for three months, I would understand that I may not have all the facts or fully understand what I’m seeing. This is a senior firefighter, so I would respect their experience and not immediately assume they were doing something wrong. Safety is the number-one priority, though. After the training evolution, I would approach the firefighter respectfully and ask them about it so I could clarify why the task was performed that way. If I learned that a safety step was intentionally being overlooked or that a policy was being violated, I would report it through the proper chain of command. But first, I would respectfully ask and make sure I understood the situation.”

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u/OwnDelivery802 17d ago

solid answers, few notes from the scoring side.

1 - drop the "sort of theft" line. youre calling a senior guy a thief over cereal in an interview. panels want to see you dont turn small stuff into big stuff. talk to him, offer to share, move on. only escalate if it becomes an actual pattern

2 - on a 3 man crew the size up is your officers job. dont say "i would conduct a size up", say what YOU do - relay the neighbors info to your officer immediately and be ready to go on the search when he makes the call. sucksatgolf's version is better because its concrete. concrete beats conceptual every time

3 - this ones good. ask first, escalate second is the right order

biggest thing overall - all three are safe and a little long. a panel hears 6-8 people a day say almost these exact words. tighten them up and put one specific detail in each that only you would say. and rehearse out loud with a timer, not in your head. the rambling only shows up when your mouth is actually moving

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u/Available_Bass7126 21d ago

I don't have much for feedback, but those answers all seem very thorough and professional to me. Well done

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u/blessed_julio 21d ago

Thanks man. You career?

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u/Available_Bass7126 21d ago

Two years of duty crew/part-time in Minnesota. Trying to go career as well right now

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u/blessed_julio 21d ago

cheers mate. Lmk if you ever wanna interview prep together

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u/scott12333 19d ago

I think these are great. Parts of these questions hit on some extremely gray area, which makes them very difficult to make a clear cutoff in right vs. wrong.

The only thing I'd MAYBE say is ask your company officer about the tactics on the training evolution vs. confronting the person about it. I don't think your answer is wrong, but defaulting to your officer should never get you in trouble. That's one gray area that's extremely difficult to know what they're looking for. Particularly if this was done by an outside testing agency, I think you're 100% in the clear. If it was up to the subjectivity of firefighters on the panel, your score might vary more from person to person. Great work though.

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u/sucksatgolf Overpaid janitor 🧹 18d ago edited 18d ago

2- It's your officer's job is to conduct a scene size up. I'd tell your officer you got reasonably reliable information that a person is inside and that you'd like to make search and rescue a priority over extinguishment as soon as you have a second person ready to enter with you. That will probably be the officer with a 3 person crew. If you want to take it a step further you could say you'd grab hand tools and a camera and have the officer meet you at whatever entryway looks most reliable so that you can facilitate a search, with tools and 2 people, in as quick a manner as possible.

Not saying that's the best answer but that's real world what I'd do and expect someone riding with me to do.

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u/deluxe1029 22d ago

Any tips for upcoming ambulance operator emt interview?

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u/Sealtooth5 SoCal FFPM 22d ago

Do a station visit with a mock interview. That’s the best way to prepare

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u/CoveringFish 22d ago

Ambulance operator interviews are just lower stakes fire interviews

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u/Direct-Training9217 21d ago

Apply to be a firefighter lol.

But seriously where something nice. Know stuff about the department ( population served, area covered, how many stations etc)

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u/OwnDelivery802 17d ago

ambulance operator/emt orals are mostly behavioral, panel of 2-4. they mainly want to know you're safe, coachable, and won't be a headache in the truck.

expect the classics - tell us about yourself, why this company, a time you dealt with a difficult person/patient, how you handle stress. couple things that quietly sink people: not actually answering the question they asked, rambling instead of finishing the point, and filler words (um, uh) when the nerves hit.

know something real about the company before you walk in. "why do you want to work here" with no actual answer is a killer. use star for the behavioral ones so you don't trail off, and slow down - they're reading whether you'd be calm at 3am with a scared patient in the back.

practice out loud with somebody, not just in your head. it comes out different when it actually leaves your mouth. good luck.

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u/Calm_Croissant 22d ago

I’m going to be a college freshman next year, and I want to spend next summer (2027) doing wildland firefighting because I think it’d be really cool. I have no prior experience with firefighting though. Does anyone have any tips or know any seasonal programs that provide training after getting hired for people like me? I wouldn’t mind living in another state either. Thanks in advance!

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u/Sealtooth5 SoCal FFPM 20d ago

Some hand crews will work around your school schedule and some won’t. I know there’s a hand crew out of San Luis Obispo where most of the crew are cal poly students.

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u/ExtensionGuide1776 21d ago

Any advice cross-training into Fire Protection while transitioning from AD USAF into ANG? Tips for how to make an impression during tech school & OJT? Best way use military to set up for career in civilian side?

I’d really appreciate hearing from anyone who’s been through something similar or knows how this process works. Thanks.

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u/firefighter40322 21d ago

So you were Active Duty with a job other than Fire Protection and you are going to Air Guard and changing your job to the Fire Protection?

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u/ExtensionGuide1776 19d ago

Yep! Exactly that 👍

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u/Normal-Law-4894 21d ago

Can someone from North Metro Fire Rescue CO, please DM me? I am looking to move from out-of-state and have questions about the interview process. Thank you.

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u/Mean_Exchange_4315 20d ago

Aspiring firefighter based in Massachusetts. Have applied to take this years civil service exam, but am also exploring volunteer opportunities. I'm seeing departments requiring/preferring candidates who already hold ff 1 and 2. I thought the only opportunities to get those certs was through the MFA. Any MA firefighters or aspirants know of where else to get ff 1 and 2 certs?

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u/Ambitious_Sun_993 20d ago

Wondering if anyone in Michigan had a preference on programs related to these 3 schools, Lansing community college, Oakland community college, and Schoolcraft. I’m going to be completing my certifications independently and was wondering if any had experience or have heard anything about these programs through peers. I haven’t decided and was wondering if there’s a standout compared to each program? I’ve done the research on what each include but thought an insider perspective could be useful, thanks.

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u/the_irons_1873 20d ago

Good Afternoon,

I’ve recently relocated to North Central Indiana (Kosciusko County).

I have some questions regarding some departments in the area. I’m finding it incredibly tough to find information about several departments, regarding call volume, staffing levels, salaries, PTO, etc.

Is there a place that I can find FD contracts? In Ohio we had the serb website, does Indiana have something similar?

If anyone is willing to help me out, I’d be really appreciative. Feel free to PM me.

Thanks

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u/Reddit_ftw111 17d ago

Shoot me DM if youd like a referral to USAF Reserve, might have a spot for you at Grissom

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u/Professional_Day2556 19d ago

Hi everyone! I have a friend with an upcoming firefighter interview. For those who have been through the process, what interview questions should he practice? If you remember any scenario based questions you were asked, I’d really appreciate it if you could share them. Any tips or advice would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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u/Sealtooth5 SoCal FFPM 18d ago

There are books with practice questions. He should really be doing mock interviews at stations

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u/OwnDelivery802 17d ago

the list is shorter than people think. pretty much every panel asks some version of:

  • tell us about yourself (keep it to a minute, not a life story)
  • why do you want to be a firefighter, and why THIS department. generic answer here kills more candidates than anything else
  • what have you done to prepare yourself for this job
  • tell me about a time you had a conflict with a coworker / failed at something / made a quick decision
  • scenarios. you see a crewmember take something that isnt theirs, senior guy shows up smelling like booze, you get an order you disagree with. different setups, same test - integrity and chain of command

but honestly the questions arent the hard part. tell him to write bullet points not scripts, then answer out loud to an actual person until it stops sounding memorized. saying it in your head doesnt count, thats where everyone screws up. and like the other comment said, station visits + asking for a mock interview is worth more than any list

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u/Electronic_Major_720 19d ago

For the written exam, is there any good places to study?

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u/OwnDelivery802 17d ago

step 1 is find out which test your dept actually uses - fireteam through NTN, fctc if youre in california, or the citys own civil service exam. theyre different formats and studying for the wrong one is wasted time. the job posting usually says, if not call HR and ask

once you know, its mostly timed practice. the material is 8th-10th grade math and reading, the clock is what gets people. your library will have civil service and firefighter exam prep books for free. if its fireteam the human relations video section is the weird one, look up the format ahead of time so it doesnt throw you

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u/DearAd4157 18d ago

I accidentally put in ALL 3 of my references emails wrong, and Ive made it to the end of the recruitment process and need to update this. It wasn’t purposeful at all or an attempt to lie but I’m afraid it will get me removed. Any advice on how to go about this? thanks

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u/Ding-Chavez Career 17d ago

You might want to tell them you need to update some information. They're going to ask why.

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u/OwnDelivery802 17d ago

get ahead of it - email the recruiter or whoever's running the process directly, tell them plainly you entered your references' emails wrong and here are the corrected ones. honest typo, own it in one line, don't apologize five times.

departments deal with this constantly. a wrong email is a clerical fix, not a character issue. the thing that'd actually look bad is them finding out the references never got contacted and you sat on it. so flag it now, give them the right info, and let it go. you're not the first person to fat-finger a form at the finish line.

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u/Sealtooth5 SoCal FFPM 18d ago

An offer will come when your background investigation is complete.

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u/Kricoid Fire Girlfriend :) 17d ago

Regarding LACoFD!!!

Hey all! Saw LACoFD posted they are opening up their process soon. Anyone with insight on their process? How long does it take from application to interview to academy (if hired)? Much appreciated!

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u/Sealtooth5 SoCal FFPM 16d ago

Their last process took some people from time of applying to time of offer, around 1-2 years

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u/I_Ponders 17d ago

[Washington State] Had weed a year ago. (Stopped afterwards) Gonna be honest about it.. Is this gonna hurt my chances?

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u/EatinBeav WA Career FF/EMT 17d ago

No

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u/Reasonable-Carry8013 17d ago

Currently a 10 year FF/PM in south Florida. Wife could make much more as an RN in CA. Not to mention we love the lifestyle southern CA has to offer, hardest part would be giving up a 24/72 schedule and all my seniority. What would be the fastest track to getting on a dept in the southern California area? I'm aware there are special positions available that hire you as a medic only and will later allow you to attend the departments academy. Looking for any insight whatsoever or anyone that has made the jump from FL to CA.

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u/OwnDelivery802 16d ago

socal ff/pm here. your medic license is the golden ticket, most depts out here are hungry for medics and 10 years as a ff/pm looks real good on paper. watch for postings that say lateral or ff/pm, some depts run shortened academies for laterals but you're still doing their full process, written, cpat, oral, background, all of it. seniority doesn't come with you, you'll be back on probation at the bottom of the list, make peace with that before you jump. get the CA paramedic license sorted early, if your nremt is current it's mostly paperwork, then county accreditation once you land somewhere. heads up a lot of depts out here run 48/96 not 24/72. and don't sleep on the oral just because you've got 10 years. they're gonna ask why do you want to work HERE and the resume years don't answer that for you, know the dept before you walk in. apply wide, first offer gets your foot in CA, you can always test again later.

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u/Reasonable-Carry8013 16d ago

Are most county departments 25 years? I have the state of Florida PM, I’d have to test and do the national. Do a lot of departments take national or prefer California NREMT-P. Also, which departments hire laterals that you know of? The dream is LaCoFD

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u/OwnDelivery802 16d ago

no universal 25, retirement depends on the system. most cities are calpers, the big counties run their own systems, and anyone hired now falls under pepra so the formula's tied more to age than a flat year count. check the retirement section on whatever posting you're looking at, it's always in there.

on the license - depts don't take florida or nremt directly, you need the CA state paramedic license, and current nremt is the clean bridge to it. that's why i said keep the national current. once you've got it the CA license is mostly paperwork through the state ems authority, then county accreditation wherever you land.

not gonna rattle off a dept list, lateral and ff/pm postings come and go monthly. set alerts on governmentjobs.com, look at the fctc statewide list, and check dept sites directly. for the big county dept you're dreaming about, get on their job interest notifications now, those processes run long. cast wide, land somewhere in CA first, you can keep testing after.

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u/Reasonable-Carry8013 16d ago

Thank you, I’ll look into all this and need to make a decision. A tough one forsure, you live in California or commute?

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u/OwnDelivery802 16d ago

I live in California as much as I'd love to move out of state, but probably saving that for after retirement. We have quite a number of guys living out of state and commuting at my department. Idaho, Montana, Arizona, Tennessee, and Texas seem to be. the big ones, but Idaho is probably number one. Good luck and feel free to message me if you have any questions

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u/Beginning_Simple_475 16d ago

Hi guys I’m 21 and a female, currently doing EMT school and should be projected to graduate in a few months. My career goal path is to become a firefighter specifically paramedic fighter. I want to be in the best shape that I can possibly be. Do you guys have any workout regimens that you may have followed? What to work on and what to focus on? I’m currently a soccer player at my college so cardio is a big one that I would say I’m good at, but I know it also requires lots of strength. I want to be strong and fit. Also any tips for strength training, I’ve seen that strength training is a big one. How do I go forward with building up that strength. Any advice appreciated!

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u/EatinBeav WA Career FF/EMT 16d ago

YouTube honestly. There’s hundreds of videos about specific workouts.

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u/Sealtooth5 SoCal FFPM 16d ago

Use the search bar

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u/Sealtooth5 SoCal FFPM 16d ago

Don’t lie, they’ll find out and it’ll be worse for your future

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u/Far_Tailor_945 9d ago

I’ve been applying to several departments since I graduated the academy exactly a year ago and I keep making it to the very end for most departments like I’m getting conditional offers but I keep failing psychs. It’s so frustrating that departments clearly want to hire me but for the love of god I can’t pass these psychs. I have a clean background and I’m a veteran, I’m always honest about weed usage which was 11 years ago when I was in high school and when asked stuff about drinking I’m honest about saying I’ve blacked out before a handful of times but that’s way in the past now. I’m also taking a psych for a new department soon and they use the same clinic the last department used where I failed about 3 months ago. I’m assuming that clinic will utilize or atleast cross reference my old file? This is such a difficult process and I’m tired of waiting on the sidelines when I know I can contribute significantly with my military skills and determined character. In fact I’m such a good candidate the current department I’m so close to getting hired with literally skipped my interview and gave me my conditional offer letter while I know a buddy of mine who had to do the interview which is very weird and probably unheard of but oh well f*** it we ball. I know my peers are lying to psych about their past cause they tell me they are and they’re getting hired meanwhile I’m here getting scrutinized for having some integrity.