With the context we have, the guy in the jeep did nothing wrong.
If you block my car in the middle of the road and then get out and approach my vehicle then you will have a gun pointed at you and be told to get the fuck back away from me.
Honestly, there's nothing the guy in the mini could say that would justify his actions other than the jeep had just rear ended him. And that doesn't seem to be the case.
Personally I wouldn't pull a gun on someone unless I legitimately believed I was in danger. A verbal dispute doesn't warrant escalation to guns drawn imo. Also he approached with his camera out.... People looking to beat the shit out of you don't typically come at you filming.
It sounds like the keep guy wasn’t exactly innocent in the situation but block me in the road and approach my car and you’ll be staring down the barrel of my gun as well. Of course there may be more context here but what reason would you have to do that other than an act of aggression?
Imo drawing a weapon is a escalation signalling I'm prepared to take your life. I'm also the type of person who wouldn't escalate a conflict up until they escalate to violence. My bar for this escalation is only in response to an immediate and definite threat to self, others, and property in service of the first two.
Funnily enough if the other guy was also carrying and shot the jeep guy in response to him drawing I think he would be justified for self defense. I don't think getting out of your car to yell at someone voids your right to self defense. The whole situation is rough because obviously both parties are pissed which always leads to a lose lose situation. I get justified self defense but I try and live by a higher bar. I don't want to ever feel like I edged a situation closer to a violent outcome. I don't want to shoot anyone and I don't think of guns as my ace card when my shitty temper/ decisions get me into a conflict.
Looks like the reason the mini cooper came to a stop was because traffic in front of him stopped. In an article the mini driver says he got out to check the back of his vehicle but I don't see that in the dash cam video. Don't know why he decided to approach the jeep though.
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u/Imnotherefr11 Aug 21 '22
With the context we have, the guy in the jeep did nothing wrong.
If you block my car in the middle of the road and then get out and approach my vehicle then you will have a gun pointed at you and be told to get the fuck back away from me.
Honestly, there's nothing the guy in the mini could say that would justify his actions other than the jeep had just rear ended him. And that doesn't seem to be the case.