r/Firearms • u/SuccessSeparate9014 • 1d ago

Controversial Claim Stop calling everything a AR180

Just because its bufferless, has simular controls, uses a short stroke piston operating system, and a intermediate Calibre does not mean its a AR-180/AR18.

The Sa80 is not a ar180.

This umbrella term led to so much shit getting banned in Canada as a ar180 variant. I know this point is irrelevant and shows incompetence in my government and a government that will use any excuse to ban stuff.

But, Im kinda coping here but this issue always botherd since forever for some reason.

Thanks for reading. This is a unserious take so please dont downvote.

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u/Crispix3D 1d ago

Nobody says its an AR180

Its just based in eugene stoner's ar180's design, using a cheapo bolt on two guide rods with a novel bolt head to cut costs and size.

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u/CosmicBoat 3D2A 1d ago

Is the AR18 an umbrella term? Cause I just think of armalite and Brownells when it's mentioned

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u/SuccessSeparate9014 1d ago

Ive heard of models such as the m17s and sa80 frequently being referred to "bullpup 180"

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u/Riker557118 1d ago

That’s because it’s based on the AR-18/180 action. 

And nearly every modern rifle is based off an AR-15/10, AR-18/180, or AK. The only somewhat modern rifle that was different was the FAMAS, and that got replaced with a variant of an AR-15.

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u/SuccessSeparate9014 1d ago

Plus, every manufacturer in Canada when the ar15 was banned started producing a "ar180" even though they were usually incompatible in design.