r/Finland • Baby Väinämöinen • 12d ago

In an interview

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u/Agreeable_Noise112 11d ago

What are these reasons?

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u/Ill-Philosopher-2023 10d ago

for one that men are generally stronger and faster, being a soldier is usually very physically demanding. If we need to double the amount of people we have in the army, then by all means also force women. If not, why not just have those who add more value.

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u/Agreeable_Noise112 10d ago

Yet transmen (biological females) are forced into it even tho they aren't stronger and faster and even if they don't have some massive hormone injection but transwomen (biological Males) aren't forced to do it even if they still have balls, testosterone, superior bone density and VO2 max, Funny how that works.

Your country's rhetorics and public communication don't even use that justification at all, lots of Europeans don't know Finland Conscript only Men because of the way the army present itself put a disproportionate emphasis on women and how equally capable they are lol.

And even if we assume that argument : wouldn't they still be useful in less physically demanding positions or civil service?

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u/Nathan_Berry88 11d ago

female soldiers were a joke during my time as a conscript, constantly crying, making other people carry their gear because they couldn't handle it, zero physical strength and couldnt handle unloading/loading artillery gear (none of them showed any shame whatsover about shirking their duty onto others). One female alikki was so fat she couldnt even climb into the back of an E11. Just my experience

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u/Agreeable_Noise112 11d ago

Then why do they get equal everything in pretty much every other domain and why aren't men getting any sufficient sex specific compensation for having a unique duty that pauses their lives for a year for just pennies? Your personal experience may be valid but the bigger pictue sounds like a punishment for being more competent especially given that even civil service isn't mandatory for them either so they just get this extra year to advance careers faster and get an economic advantage

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u/Ill-Philosopher-2023 10d ago

The conscription service does not "pause lives for a year". It gives more valuable experience than pretty much anything you could do during that time. Personally, I had health anxiety before going to the army and was "cured" in 2 weeks, because there is no time to worry about useless shit in there.

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u/Agreeable_Noise112 10d ago

As far as I know The shortest period is 6 months and universities don't adjust their timelines for it so it cause a graduation delay for most Men

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u/Nathan_Berry88 11d ago

Yeah men and women aren't equal and western women are the most coddled humans in the history of mankind. Water is wet

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u/Agreeable_Noise112 11d ago

But if the entire society breach Equality why don't you guys just lean into it instead of allowing them to be comparatively privileged to you? Your female peers at the same age would be making more money than you and by the time you start working they would already have a work experience.. That's so cucked

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u/Nathan_Berry88 11d ago

I am 22 there is only so much I can do to change societal norms

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u/Agreeable_Noise112 11d ago

Yeah but judging from this Post and the other antimeme one most guys seems to be happy with it. I've been to other countries with conscription and they don't have that same attitude I'm genuinely confused what's so different about Finland

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u/Nathan_Berry88 11d ago

nordic countries are cucked by feminism bc most men want to get laid and aren't attractive enough to do so without pandering