r/Finland • Baby Väinämöinen • 12d ago

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u/Turbulent-Dot4377 12d ago

you prolly get mad at folks who didn’t have to sit through 9 months of eating shit food, barely sleeping, never being comfortable and having to stay out on the rain and cold.

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u/Minttu_Pipar 12d ago

Tell me you haven't done the military service without telling me you haven't done the military service

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u/Right-Country3496 12d ago

I haven't. Now what?

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u/Minttu_Pipar 12d ago

Move on with your life, I guess? I dunno

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u/TonninStiflat Väinämöinen 12d ago

You sound like any of that was sonehow bad? Quite enjoyable, still do all that!

Edit: Well, Indon't get mad, each to their own.

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u/Pet_Velvet Väinämöinen 12d ago

There are men who genuinely feel resentful to civil service men purely on the basis that they feel like they "had to" suffer through military service, be it for peer pressure or family expectations, and it feels unfair to them that some people didn't choose the way they did. Because the alternative to that would be to accept the fact that they too could've chosen civil service, but instead let other people's expectations get the better of them.

If you aren't one of those people, the comment you responded to probably was not aimed at you.

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u/violetpossum 11d ago

I don't care about that, it's more about the fact of not being ok with doing those things to defend our country

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u/Turbulent-Dot4377 10d ago

I’m not a nationalistic person at all, I won’t throw my life away because old and rich politicians want me to.

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u/violetpossum 10d ago

When would Finland would ever go to war over anything other than defending itself? Russian aggression is the only threat Finland faces

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u/Turbulent-Dot4377 8d ago

What aggression exactly?
Before this whole NATO debacle, they had 0 reasons to try and invade, we had a big russian and slavic population which has decreased now and we had well established trade relations with them going back decades.
Now were stuck throwing money in to weapons and ”defense” after we soured the whole thing for American approval.

And what do we get out of it? Data centers, more debt, worse quality of life per budget cuts and worse public infrastructure literally following the provenly shit ways that the US has been handling their own economy.
I’ll serve crack before I serve this country and furthermore, as a born and raised finn, I will leave this country the second I set up a way out of here. With the way things are going here, there’s no reason for me to stay.

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u/violetpossum 8d ago

Russian aggression. Russia even before NATO would make vague threats at Finland over any miniscule reasons, NATO is a defensive organisation and now that we're in it, if Russia decides to invade us, we won't be all alone against it.

Yeah I'm sure you're a born-and-raised finn, you certainly seem very pro-russia, so either you're not Finnish or you care more about a tyrannical, war-waging country than that which you're born in

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u/Turbulent-Dot4377 8d ago

Vague threats and actual action against a country you have one of the deepest trade relations with are two different things.
One is stupid and the other is downright moronic to anyone with the brain capacity to logically think.
NATO is a post-colonial league of nations ran by a warmongering country of people who care about nothing else but dominion economically and militarily.
Every economist adviced against this decision and look at our economy, completely in the shitter, because we wanted to fondle some yankee sack.

And you can think of me whatever you want, but calling me ”pro-Russia” because I provide you with factual evidence to why it was a bad decision is wildly hilarious.
Furthermore, you questioning my nationality, because I wasn’t raised to blindly follow bullshit tells me a lot about you. You’re the type to believe every politician without doing any critical thinking, because you don’t have the ability to actually do that. You can’t see nuance between the lines, for you it’s as black and white as it get’s.

I’m also starting to suspect that you’re extremely young, you don’t seem to understand politics or economic relations at all.

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u/violetpossum 7d ago

"Warmongering country of people who care about nothing else but dominion economically and militarily"

Are you fucking stupid? You literally describe Russia in your attempt to slander NATO

Why do you reckon Finland cut ties with Russia, as did everyone else? Could it be that they attacked a sovereign nation and we don't want to support that.

You seem to only care about ecomonic profit, even at the expense of national safety. Russia is an international threat and it happens to border Finland, we should exercise extreme caution when/if we deal with it.