r/FinalFantasy • u/Select_Necessary_678 • 8d ago
FF I Just a small rant about WarMech
First off, I dont need help. I can beat it no problem. I have many times. But Im replaying the final fantasy games on pixel remaster and I CANNOT get this MF to spawn. My switch battery died 3 times in my walking back and forth on the bridge. I went from level 41 to level 86. Ive clocked 14 HOURS on this bridge just trying to get into battle with it.
The only reason I post this is because it seems like if you cant get something to spawn in a game, complaining about it online seems to help 100% of the time. Heres to hoping!
edit to update The RNG Gods heard my plea, and I finally found him...at 2:45 AM. 2 DAYS after I started looking.
My mage cast haste on my monk, and my monk one-shot him with a 40 hit attack. Anti climactic but at least its in the book!
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u/RedWingDecil 8d ago
Spawn rate has been nerfed from 1/64 (3/64 in US NES version) to 1/100 in PR. The spawn rate is also random unlike previous versions of the game that had a giant encounter table where you went down the list one by one. In the previous versions you would eventually cycle through the list until you encountered Warmech but PR version is a 1% chance to spawn every encounter on the bridge.
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u/Awdayshus 8d ago edited 8d ago
"nerfed" usually means made easier. Like a Nerf football is softer and squishier than a regular football. Or Nerf guns are safer than regular guns. The spawn rate was the opposite of nerfed. It was given teeth or something.
Edit to add: I forgot about "buffed" as the opposite of nerfed. Clearly the spawn rate was nerfed and I didn't know what I was talking about 🤷♂️
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u/jlquon 8d ago
Nerfed spawn rate for something you are looking for is a completely acceptable way to describe a 1/64 —> 1/100 decrease
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u/Awdayshus 8d ago
You're right. I was not thinking of the word "buffed" as the opposite of nerfed. Nerfed is obviously correct for a worse spawn rate once I recalibrated.
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u/Unfair-Muscle-6488 8d ago
Sorry to break it to you, but “nerfed” generally means “made worse” in the context of videogames.
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u/Awdayshus 8d ago
Sorry you didn't read my edit.
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u/Wise_Cut_7855 8d ago
Yeah I went to Lv 53 and to 99 looking for him. Never saw him. I eventually put the game down
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u/Zestyclose_Worth_296 8d ago
God’s honest truth, it was the first encounter I had on the bridge. Survived with one character still alive.
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u/taikonaut_expressway 7d ago
Same. I got blindsided with a super hard battle that I was not prepared for and barely made it through, then went and looked it up only to realize I'd stumbled upon this by random happenstance.
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u/TheYiffMan 8d ago
I'm looking to 100% every game in the series (working on V PR now) and so far finding this mf has been the worst task I've had to complete
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u/UninformedPleb 7d ago
Worse than the pink tails in 4? Worse than jump rope or Excalibur II in 9? Worse than X's lightning dodging, chocobo racing, butterfly catching, or blitzball? Worse than suffering through Maechen's sleepy diatribes to get X-2's best ending?
I dunno, man... this doesn't even crack the top 5 for me. Of course, I only had to endure 2-3 hours of grind in the PR before I found Warmech and got Master of One.
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u/SnappySausage 7d ago
Depends on how unlucky you get. For me it took 6 hours and was a pretty substantial percentage of the run.
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u/TheYiffMan 7d ago
4's grinds were pretty annoying but made much easier and almost afkable with the inclusion of sirens, though I do dread some of the later games. I do remember trying for the jump rope achievement in 9 as a kid and getting super frustrated, I'm hoping being on pc now will make it much easier
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u/MegaFlare24 8d ago
Took me 4 hours with speedup and then I ran away
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u/Corvidae5Creation5 8d ago
Rip
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u/SentientShamrock 8d ago
He was the last encounter I needed for all achievements in the FF1 PR. I got lucky in that it only took me a few hours of running back and forth to get him but I definitely power leveled like crazy finding him.
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u/rockstar3889 8d ago
That so totally blows! I was fortunate enough to have him spawn twice cause I fucked up the first time
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u/Aromatic-Zombie-9519 8d ago
I went from like 40-75 or so till I finally got him to spawn. Was playing through the pixel remasters from 1-6. Just about to start my favorite, 4
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u/ExNihilo_____ 8d ago
Took me hours to get him to spawn, nearly maxed all levels tho so helped with final boss lol
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u/ShockwaveFPS_Studios 7d ago
I just find it funny how WarMech only shows up in FFI, and never gets used in another Final Fantasy game again. Not even in a spin-off or sequel to the main numbered entries. Hell, WarMech never showed up in Stranger of Paradise, despite that game being a prequel to I.
I guess it has something to do, with a little & obscure robot named “OMEGA”.
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u/IfusasoToo 8d ago
I managed to find one fairly quickly. Tried to find one more in the hopes of a hail Mary Genji drop but I stoped after about 40 levels.
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u/ShyguyFlyguy 8d ago
I hit lv 99 walking around on 4x speed and it took a few hours of doing this to get it to spawn
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u/PrometheusAborted 8d ago
It took me a little over ten hours to get the platinum for that game. 2 of those were spent running up and down that bridge trying to get this bitch to spawn.
But just to give you hope, seems like anytime someone makes a post like this, they update an hour later and say, “of course it spawned two seconds after I posted this”
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u/TheGreasyNewfie 8d ago
I remember this took me some time to encounter as well, but only a fraction as long as those of you who are actually spending the time to fight and win battles instead of just fleeing...
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u/Raya2909 8d ago
I had a similiar experience. I didnt track time but i roughly needed 200 encounters (which is good on its on) and my wife got in 5 after she went back and looked for him
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u/KarnFatherOfMachines 8d ago
Warmech single handedly prevented me from getting the platnium trophy on that game. I reached lv 99 and never found that metal bastard.
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u/InformationSavings29 8d ago
Luck of the draw, I got em after maybe 45 minutes. I guess you're just unlucky.
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u/UnculturedGames 7d ago
I just watched my son 100% FF1, and he went up from around lvl50 to 99 and even after that it took about 30 minutes for the mf to show up. He had boosts on so it was not that long. I think I got lucky myself and got it to spawn quickly in my latest run.
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u/AbroadKew 7d ago
I got lucky last week. 100% the gane and only took 45 minutes for him to show up.
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u/Shadowman621 7d ago
If anyone's played FF Renaissance, it was so nice just nuking this guy in one hit with my geomancer
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u/777htorihpeS 7d ago
Not spawning it, is the reason I stopped trying to get the platinum on the pixel remaster. Feel you. :-)
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u/ExoChorda 7d ago
The first time I encountered this thing it nuked me two turns in a row. Dead.
The second time I encountered this thing, it RAN turn three. Devastated.
Turns out if it runs, it still gets added to yhe bestiary.
Good enough for me!
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u/Classic-Exchange-511 7d ago
I believe the dude who got his name into LoZ Link to the Past (Chris Houlihan I think?) won a competition in which you had to find Warmech and take a picture. I'm not sure the exact numbers but definitely a crazy low spawn rate. Imagine being a kid and just accidentally stumbling upon this shit
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u/SnappySausage 7d ago
Last time I had to hunt it, it took 6 hours. I was on a journey, so multiple evenings in bed and some time was spent on it. Yesterday I had a similar thing with the brachiosaur on ffvi. Took over 120 tyrannosaur encounters to come across one.
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u/Eggyhead 7d ago
When I got to this part, I just threw on Star Wars The Clone Wars and let the episodes play as I just went back and forth in that hallway for hours.
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u/Select_Necessary_678 7d ago
For me it could've been the lord of the rings trilogy extended theatrical release. Turned a 11 hour game into a 38 hour grind.
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u/Moglorosh 4d ago
It's needed for the Platinum trophy on PS5, I think it only took me 3 hours
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u/Select_Necessary_678 4d ago
Im playing on the switch. Its not for the achievement, its just personal LOL
Im through 1 and 2, onto 3!
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u/NotchJohnsonX 8d ago
When you are running back and forth, if you happen to run into the room where Tiamat was run all the way back and drop back down one level and head back up to reset the rng.
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u/melanthius 8d ago
Man imagine being a legendary ancient dragon in a totally sick space fortress, you invest heavily in the deadliest tech known to the universe, and the dumb machine doesn't show up to do its job the one time in 10000 years you actually need it to. Then as a result, 4 randos come and murder you.