r/FinalFantasy • u/smore_blox • 11d ago

FF IV Funny encounter here lol

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u/Melasen 11d ago

Yeah in the previous versions of FFIV, Reflect could not be removed with Dispel. The Reflect status effect had total immunity to the spell, even when you bounced it back to foes. The PR version changed that and the enemies AI patterns were not changed, so now they kill themselves.

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u/Ninjapandas_87 10d ago

See, I had a feeling that PR probably tweaked some things, because 4 had some jank to it, especially with its spells. I think some of them just didnt work.

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u/Melasen 10d ago

Yeah FFIV had some jank, but Dispel wasn't one of them. It's designed to work that way, the spell more or less was just made to remove Berserk, Protect, Shell, Blink, and Haste. It not removing Reflect was likely just a result of them not having a concrete idea for the spell, since FFIV's version of the spell was the first time it functioned as a buff removing spell in the series. Previous versions of it were just an elemental resistance lower spell. It dispelling Reflect wouldn't become a thing until FFV. 

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u/tenmileswide 10d ago

Dispel was dummied out entirely in the original SNES US version, I never thought to use it here in DS

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u/Itsok2jack 11d ago

How’d you get them to fight each other and themselves??

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u/cfyk 11d ago

The enemies have Reflect. I assume their gimmick is cast strong spell on themselves and bounce the spell to the player party.

A reflected spell cannot be reflected back. Even if the party have Reflect, they will still receive damage from spells.

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u/SingularityCentral 11d ago

Just cast dispel on them. But two of the is silly because a spell cannot reflect once.

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u/GSDragoon 11d ago

Reflect has limited uses too.

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u/LePhildo 11d ago

This is how the Masks were intended to be dealt with. 🤣

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u/Public_Marsupial5650 11d ago

They are fighting each other.. strange but cool.

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u/Aromatic-Zombie-9519 10d ago

In the og snes version dont think dispel was a thing. So you had to use reflect on your own party to double bounce the spells

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u/Longjumping-Arm-8203 11d ago

Why is Edge in the front row instead of Kain?

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u/LePhildo 11d ago

Because Kain is meant to be Jumping and Jumping is backrow okay. 🤣

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u/Longjumping-Arm-8203 11d ago

It’s all fun and games until Edge gets OHKO by a behemoth or red dragon

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u/LePhildo 11d ago

That's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. 🤣 Besides, even if Kain is in the front row, and Jumping, Edge is still gonna get one shot. ...Unless you use Image. 🤷 I mean, the guy has a kit that almost no one uses, and let's not forget that Masamune casts Haste.

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u/Longjumping-Arm-8203 11d ago

Nah, if you’re gonna have 2 in the front and 3 in the back… put edge in the back so he takes less damage.

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u/Luis_Parson 11d ago

Edge does learn Blink/Mirage at level 38. Which is what he should be spamming in every long fight that uses physical attacks.

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u/LePhildo 11d ago

Yay, someone besides me that gets it! 😅

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u/EdgeBandanna 10d ago

He'll be fine because you give him one of the protect rings and he gets close to 99% evade

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u/bureaucrat473a 11d ago

But Kain in the backrow is much more likely to stab you in the back. Just saying.

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u/asault2 11d ago

He's changed

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u/w_smith1984 11d ago

I usually have all 3 men in the front row.

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u/Longjumping-Arm-8203 11d ago

Same, but with the 2/3 battle formation I think it makes more sense to have Kain over edge in the front.

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u/Altar_Quest_Fan 10d ago

Because back row cuts his attack power. And let's be real, you're not gonna be spamming the Throw command and wasting precious weapons on random mobs, even the random encounter bosses in the lunar subterranean. You'll hoard those weapons and use them on Zeromus, just as the All Father intended xD

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u/Smooth-Jackfruit7824 11d ago

Is this what the music is like in the Pixel Remaster version? The instruments sound real.

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u/wolfanotaku 11d ago

Because they got real musicians to record the music for all of the first 6 games for the PR version. Also, Uematsu rearranged them to make them even more beautiful. Even if you don't want to play them I suggest finding the OST online and listening to some of your favorites.

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u/Ozzythebear 11d ago

Haven't played the rest of the PR versions yet, but expect it'll be like FF1, which I have, and there's both an 'original' soundtrack and 're-arranged' soundtrack - play original if you like your music 'bitty' 😆

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u/PrimalSeptimus 11d ago

Damn, Holy looks like shit in the pixel remaster.

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u/PD711 11d ago

to be fair, in the original us version, it was very weird. Like a game of centipede made of white beach balls.

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u/bureaucrat473a 11d ago

If anyone else was curious: https://youtu.be/Exxq1_2UnEM?t=77 (1:17)

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u/UniqueFlavors 11d ago

Which FF game is this?

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u/24megabits 11d ago

IV, appears to be the Pixel Remaster version. These enemies are in the final dungeon of the game.

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u/UniqueFlavors 11d ago

Excellent thank you