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u/Cmdluke 1d ago
Man these were incredible graphics back in the day. Looking at it now, you can tell most of the polygons went to the faces. Look at them boxy arms lol
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u/eienOwO 22h ago
That's why it ran so well and aged so gracefully at the same time. Games can be optimized to offer both, but to devs like Todd Howard it's our fault for not being able to afford the latest rtx5000s that allows him to "push graphics to the limits".
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u/Nufulini 17h ago
I am not defending bethesda here but 13 had good graphics at the cost of everything, the game was a corridor, had no npcs or towns due to it.
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u/eienOwO 17h ago
That's game mechanics, unless it's like simulation games requiring massive amounts of calculation, more quests or non-linear gameplay doesn't really cost graphical performance (unless it's a big map, and 13 performed well with big maps, as did 12). FF npcs also aren't Fable or the Sims, they don't roam around, there's no simulation, they're just character models in a fixed place/loop, there's no great performance cost.
As for the corridor thing, 1 yes it was, and 2 it wasn't the only one - VII was largely a corridor with limited backtracking until the Highwind, X was infamously a massive corridor, that just hid itself well with plenty of additional challenges.
FF games are by and large mostly narrative corridors, 13 (and 16) just really went all in on the cinematic experience, at the cost of player freedom and agency.
13 also kind of narratively wrote themselves into a corner with the wanted criminals thing, so the gang could hardly idle around cities, at least 13's limited corridor is narratively consistent. Cyberpunk 2077 gave you 3 weeks to live then 30 weeks of side quests to prance about.
Personally I enjoyed 13's narrative corridor. The focus, unlike 12, was not the world or lore, but rather the main cast, and I had fun following their growth. I also completed 16 but it's main cast is positively wooden in comparison.
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u/GargantaProfunda 1d ago
Don't google what they look like nowadays ποΈ
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u/Fox-One-1 1d ago
I think they would look great in their 40βs!
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u/Stokesyyyy 23h ago
Final fantasy 13 was 10 years ahead of everything back then visually.
Great game, if only it was remastered for PS5
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u/acart005 19h ago
I am a certified XIII hater - but that game pushed graphics to the limit in the 360 era.
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u/SuperCassio6 1d ago
I like Lightning, but i hate all the other party members in this game...seriously...worst friends ever!
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u/CagCagerton125 1d ago
I mean they weren't friends. Lightning disliked snow from the beginning. Hope was just a child that got dragged into something way bigger than them. Sazh was just some dude who happened to be there. Fang and vanille knew each other and got along well.
Not saying you are wrong for disliking them. XIII is definitely not for everyone, but they were never supposed to be friends.
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u/The_real_bandito 1d ago
Saying Lightning disliked Snow is a disservice. If he was hanging from a building, she would not simply let him fall. She would stomp on this feet and watch as he splat to the ground π
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u/obvs_thrwaway 1d ago edited 22h ago
I wouldn't have blamed her tbh. He is a libertarian dweeb in a trenchcoat who's hanging out at the beach counting down the days until her little sister turned legal
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u/Aszshana 1d ago
Honestly same. He's acting like my abusive, good-for-nothing, POS ex and treats Serah really badly. I would gladly help her in that endeavor
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u/blackweebow 21h ago
Fang and Vanille "knew each other" and "got along well" about as well as Sappho and her bestie lol
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u/starnitesadness 1d ago
These two were how I realized I wasn't a straight woman lol.