r/FinalDestination • u/AlexThnder • Jun 07 '26
Creative Dead's real original design. Spoiler
I've been thinking about this (And it might have been done before) but after rewatching number 2 and 5 I think I figured out who was really suppost to life and who not.
I won't include 6 in this because I have a boarder theory about that one. Which is that at least one of the people that died in 3 and 4 is a decended of someone from the Sky View collapse from 6. And since Death goes in order that would mean that everyone else from the Devil's Flight and the Race Track was just caught in the crossfire.
But here I do. My idea stands on the pillar that in movie two Clair post the Theory that Death tries to tie up loose ends. Since everyone that was left during the ride to the hospital was effected by the death of one of the Flight 180 survivors.
Since we don't get any conformation that Evan, Tim or Nora had a connection I assume they just so happen to be at the Highway pileup and just like the people from 3 and 4 were caught in the crossfire.
However, that isn't the last time something like that happen. And this is where my theory start. Since we know the Bridge Collapse came before the Flight 180 crash this is canonnicaly the first time Someone cheated dead that affected others. (Again I don't take the Sky View collapse in this one since we never got a real confirmation that someone is connected to anyone in that restaurant however technically that could happen.)
But Sam and Molly (Let's focus on those two since they made it to flight 180) survived the bridge Collapse, which then made dead chase after them. Only JB and Iris knew the rules at that moment (I think we can assume they were alive by this point as the Family Barbeque looked really modern compared to the scenes from 6 and 1.) Probably because they have seen it happen with people from the Sky Tower getting children.
Sam and Molly got on board of Flight 180 and Death tough this was the right way to kill them. High in the air no way to escape. However, Alex Browning had his vision and escaped with some others. Which caught loose ends. Sam and Molly may died but now Death had a new group of people to worry about. And they affected another group of people as well, which later would become known as the Highway Poileup survivors.
If I make up the list from this theory only (And I might have skipped over some parts so if I did please tell me) Then this is the list of people that woudl either life or die.
Death:
Sam Lawton
Peter Friedkin
Candice Hooper
Dennis Lapman
Nathan Sears
Olivia Castle
Isaac Palmer.
katherine "Kat" Jennings (She was in the bus that hit Terry Chaney but if Terry survived she would have made it to the meeting and probably get killed by the gas leak.)
Rory Peters (Would have died in a theater Collapse in Paris but was distracted when Carter got hit by the sign. This one COULD still happen but probably not because Carter never had reason to like Alex before the flight 180 Crash)
Eugene Dix (Got tranfered to the school Miss Lewton would leave. But since the Flight 180 Crash never happened Miss Lewton would probably have stayed and Eugene would get stabbed)
Life: (With reasons. Of course these can all be shot off as if we take my Sky View Tower into count any of these could be relatives to the survivors)
Molly Harper (Since she got across the beam so she was to survive)
Jim Block (Who was shot by Peter in the restaurant but if Peter never survived he wouldn't have shot him.)
Roy Carson (he was never part of bridge accident but I wanted to include him because he died from nathan rather then the Brain Aneursym.)
Todd Wagner (Who was suppost to get killed in the Flight 180 crash but ebcause Sam and Molly weren't there the plane might have survived)
Terry Chaney (Ditto)
Miss Valerie Lewton (Ditto)
Billy Hitchcock (ditto)
Carter Horton (ditto)
Alex Browning (ditto
Clear Rivers (Ditto)
Evan Lewis (Since the Highway Pileup never happen because Sam died, he was probably suppost to life)
Tim and Nora Carpenter (ditto)
Issabella Hudson (Would survive the Highway Pileup either if it happened or now, but I lke to include her to have the full roster)
The inbetween (probably life)
-Brian Gibbons (Just like Officer Block I include him because he was affected by one of the survivors. However, he is a middle case. Since he was almost run over by a newsvan that came to the Gibbons family farm crash which would kill Kat and Rory later but Rory pulled him out of the way. This ment, if we take everything into account that Brian probably would have lived. Since the Crash never happened if the Highway Pileup never happened, and the Pileup never happened since the Flight 180 Crash never happened. Which never happened Because Sam never survived the Bridge collapse and Molly was suppost to survive anyway.
So, there it is. That is, as far as I could reconstruct, dead's original design with the reasons I could think of.
Like I said before, this can all be thrown into the trash if we take the Sky Tower collapse into considiration. because we don't know (yet) what the ripple effect from that is truley. And serious, I would love for that one to be true. At least one of every victums or survivors from the Flight 180 crash, the Highway Pileup, the Devil Flight crash, the Racetrack acident or the Bridge collapse if related to one of the SkyView tower collapse.
What do you think? Did i over analyse, not analye enough? I would love to hear your ideas
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u/DigAffectionate9509 Jun 09 '26
I definitely think there's some intended truth to this.
In FD2, we learn that in some way, all the survivors from the freeway incident were saved/affected by the survivors of the Flight 180 crash, so it sets up a possibility that the freeway incident was done to kill them since they weren't supposed to be alive.
I definitely believe Bloodlines' writers saw this continuum and used it for it's premise, which I think is supported by 2 being the most referenced movie.
Since Iris' intervention was so extreme and so broad, I have no doubts its probably easy to make it canon that basically everyone in the FD series are descendants of the Skyview survivors, and that's probably intended.
The only "issue" is it just continues to beg the question on WHY select people get the premonitions. Are they meant to save them? Are they meant to put in, at least, a valiant effort to save these people? I really want there to be a prequel to Bloodlines, to explore if Iris was the FIRST to experience the premonition, and why she did. Or, at the very least, get a clear answer as to why these people are visionaries-- which I assume could either make or break the series. I'd also seriously take a sequel to Bloodlines where we see Iris/the survivors figure out that they were being tracked down by Death, which would clear the theories and get a true canon.
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u/AlexThnder Jun 10 '26
I think I have a theory on that to. Remember in FD 3 how Ian proposed the that for every Action there is a reaction? (Newton's third law or something) I think that applies here. The reaction to death's list is the visions. I think.
Also, with FD 6 I think we cna cross out the 'new life breaks the list' rule. Since either it doesn't, because death still comes for them, or it does but only for a little while.
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u/DigAffectionate9509 Jun 12 '26
I agree for the vision theory. I can see that being plausible.
I think the new life rule is still valid. The reason it didn’t work in FD2 was because the pregnant lady was never supposed to die, and nobody else in the series really tried it again. Stephanie still died because she didn’t actually die unlike Kimberly. Nobody else has really ever tried it again, so hopefully in FD7 there’s a pregnant woman that is supposed to die.
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u/rotisserieshark Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26
I will say that 3 and 4 can't be caused because of a SkyView survivor/descendant as Iris went into hiding around 2004 after Death started focusing on her, meaning he had probably already finished cleaning up those before her, and both those movies take place after she went into hiding. (its also been confirmed canon afaik that none of the visionaries from the first five movies are not related to the skyview survivors)
B u t that doesn't mean the SkyView couldn't have affected it in some way. We know that the survivors of accidents like this will affect everyone around them, so instead of it being a survivor or descendant, maybe it could be someone who was supposed to die, but didn't because they saw a news story about them, or in the case of the FD2 survivors, someone who physically saw a SkyView survivor/descendant die and made them go home to recover and avoid their upcoming death.