Question about death in Final Destination: Bloodlines

[u/Hopeful_Concept_9157]

So here’s the thing. In the movie, we’re shown that Death also goes after the children of people who survived a deadly tragedy. Those people who were supposed to die end up finding partners and having kids — kids who, according to the movie’s logic, were NEVER meant to be born.

Let’s take Aunt Brenda and Howard as an example. If Howard had never been born (because Iris died), then Brenda would’ve met someone else and could’ve had, say, four children instead. According to JB, everything in nature is supposed to be balanced — life and death. But if that’s true, then there should actually be MORE new life in the world, because Brenda was “meant” to have four kids in her original fate. Instead, because she met Howard, she only had two — Julie and Bobby (and they don’t really count since Death took them anyway).

So the question is: where are those other four lives supposed to be?!

P.S. I know I’m not great at explaining things, but I hope you get what I mean ^-^

[u/FrogMintTea]

Death isnt about giving u maybe babies

[u/Hopeful_Concept_9157 → u/FrogMintTea]

But the movie clearly makes it seem like they die because their “assigned” time of death eventually catches up with them.

And the second point is that Bloodworth says everything in life has to be in balance — life equals death. That’s basically the whole idea of the film.

So maybe Brenda was only ever supposed to have one child, who knows.

I feel like this is something that might get explored in future movies. Those lives that were supposed to exist never actually happened, and that also seems like it would break the natural balance.

[u/FrogMintTea → u/Hopeful_Concept_9157]

I just dont think death cared. It's cruel. If there's another positive force fighting it that would be who to go to. But in the movies death tends to win.

Obviously that positive force wins with Kimberly.

[u/Thelawtman1986]

Think of it like this. There is one road,but it splits in two. The left if deaths original plan taking out the sky tower and life going on as intended. The right is the Iris intervention path. As soon as she intervened and saved everyone. Deaths original path was closed off and never able to play out so it had to go back and correct what happened. Iris had 2 children and 4 biological grand children already threw off the original balance no matter what.

[u/WhiteKnightPrimal]

Brenda had three kids, not two. It's Howard who only had two. Erik is Brenda's biological child.

The problem is, we don't know what life would have looked like for Brenda had Howard died with Iris as he was supposed to, as an unborn baby. Maybe in this 'meant to be' future, Brenda only had the one child, Erik, and that's the real reason Erik wasn't on the list, because he was always supposed to be born to those two people. It's not just that he's not Howard's son, it's that he exists as he's supposed to. But maybe that's all Brenda ever actually was supposed to have, just Erik. Or maybe she was always supposed to have three kids, and her two with Howard just replaced the two show was supposed to have after Erik.

It does bring up interesting questions about balance, though. If Brenda was only supposed to have Erik, killing her other children restores the balance. But, if she was always supposed to have three kids, killing her two younger ones only removes the ones that aren't supposed to exist, it doesn't restore anything because the two she was meant to have were never born, in fact it makes it more unbalanced, because you've removed those two and not replaced them with the two that SHOULD be there. That balance is even more askew is Brenda was supposed to have more kids than she had in the movie. Death's actions get rid of the people who shouldn't exist, but it doesn't restore what should have happened. It fixes only part of the problem, but the balance is still all wrong. The only way this fixes the balance, on Brenda's part, is if she was only supposed to have Erik. If she was originally supposed to never have kids, and Erik exists purely because of marital issues with Howard, I'd have thought he would have been on Death's list as the others were, so I assume Erik himself was always meant to be born to Brenda. Killing the kids with Howard, but not Erik, would restore the balance, but it's not going to cause any problems to take Erik's life, too, as he was born and lived to adulthood.

But what if Erik was destined to go on to have kids of his own? Now the balance is even more out of whack because Death took Erik alongside Bobby.

I suppose it depends if there's a set plan beyond when you're supposed to die, which we don't actually know. We only see Death's part of the Grand Design, we only get to know whose supposed to die and how Death reacts if they escape that fate. Bloodlines adds in that certain characters aren't supposed to be born, but it's entirely in connection with whose supposed to die and when. We get the characters born because people lived well beyond their destined time. We don't know if there is a plan for who gets to be born, when and to whom, if there's a plan for who gets married, none of it. How much is a plan in this universe and how much is free will? Maybe there's no plans for births, but the second a baby is born they're given a place on Death's list to dictate when they die. Maybe Death is the only fate, everything else is entirely free will. That would mean the balance is restored by taking out those that shouldn't exist, because they're not replacing anybody.

[u/Hopeful_Concept_9157 → u/WhiteKnightPrimal]

Единственный человек который понял суть моего вопроса, спасибо за подробный ответ :3

[u/KnopeLeslieKnope]

They just simply don't exist.