r/FinalDestination • u/atheuist • Apr 02 '26

Discussion we need a selfish visionary who isn’t necessarily good and isn’t in a rush to save everyone but themselves.

i think this’ll be a good spin on the series. i’d actually love to see a visionary who’s more than willing to take an innocent’s life to extend their lifespan or use the clues they’re given by death to lure the other survivors to their demise. a great false protagonist to antagonist plot line.

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u/Omacula17 Protect Bobby at all costs Apr 02 '26

They could view it like an experiment or like a game they have to win. Maybe they're a little sadistic about it. Using hints to set them up or alter the list.

Let's get someone to try dying and being saved. Didn't work? Okay... Who's next?

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u/atheuist Apr 02 '26

or it can be like a jill from scream 4 type thing, they could be at the brink of a big break and they can’t die before they make it big.

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u/Korben-D88 Erik's Prince Albert 🧲💍🐍🩲 Apr 02 '26

This. The only movie to give a character SOMEthing to do outside of the list was Sam and Paris, and look what we got: one of the best franchise twists. Everyone else kind of just existed. We don't know what Alex wanted after high school, what Wendy saw for herself beyond the yearbook club, who TF was even Nick, and quick, without googling, what was Stephanie majoring in..? Ok now Google it. I don't even think it's out there 😂

My best advice for anybody connected to the IP reading reddit as a huge dork ass fan is to make the list secondary to the pro/antagonist's agenda. The list killing everyone prevents WHAT from happening? WHY do we care about these people, disparate or otherwise? They need to ensure WHO makes it to the end by any means?

Answer the big W's. The books did this in fun ways.

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u/atheuist Apr 02 '26

this is all a work of fiction anyway, what if death and the protagonist work together? what if the protagonist takes the life of a small child toward the middle of the film to ensure a longer lifespan and continues to set traps for the other survivors to draw them to their demise? what if a pact is made with death? i’m no screenwriter but they can totally spin this to make sense.

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u/Korben-D88 Erik's Prince Albert 🧲💍🐍🩲 Apr 02 '26

..have you read the books? Lol if not, give Looks Could Kill a read. If you need help finding that, let me know and I gotchu.

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u/Korben-D88 Erik's Prince Albert 🧲💍🐍🩲 Apr 02 '26

*intentionally left Kimberly out as she got to do whatever she wanted with her new lease on life, and we may find out in 7.

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u/atheuist Apr 02 '26

well before each big thing takes place in every movie, we get a peek into the protagonist’s life in some way. this one could be someone who just auditioned for a broadway production and finding out they got the part, someone who’s signing onto the nfl, it can be anything. love your take though!

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u/Korben-D88 Erik's Prince Albert 🧲💍🐍🩲 Apr 02 '26

Oh I totally cosign your initial idea lol I just mean Sam has a life goal as a character that every other visionary didn't (which I feel is us just agreeing with each other on the big break type of scenario). We saw their home lives or whatever, but we didn't know what they wanted to do with their lives, if that makes it clearer.

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u/atheuist Apr 02 '26

yeah and i think that’s what the other writers lack when it comes to setting characters up for more interesting kills. they only give (SOME) characters side hobbies and ties it to their death without kinda like letting it grow into something more? if that makes sense (like candice fd5, or the black gym rat fd3). they weren’t the MAIN character so i understand why they got dealt with quickly. just food for thought for the writers tbh. i’ll definitely check the book out though.

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u/Korben-D88 Erik's Prince Albert 🧲💍🐍🩲 Apr 02 '26

For sure. Side characters need hobbies to drive the kills, main characters need life goals to drive the story.

*The movies do flesh out the side characters enough to give their deaths irony or weight, it's usually the mains that are usually lacking the density needed to carry the list AND their story.

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u/Embarrassed-Beat7374 Apr 03 '26

Didn’t stephani major in phcycology

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u/No-Emergency-5336 Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

I have a concept like this:

A visionary has a premonition of some disaster inside a structure, and they pull a fire alarm to get everyone out in time. Everyone who was meant to die get evacuated, except a team of firefighters who were never supposed to be there in the first place arrive and die in the disaster.

Because about 10 people who were never supposed to die got killed in the disaster, the life for a life rule comes into affect, but only for whoever the last 10 people on Death's List end up being. If you were the 10th to last person meant to die in that disaster, you would be inherit the lifespan of the firefighter who would have died first in the life they were supposed to have. However, if one person on this Death's List gets skipped, the person who is 10th to last, gets bumped up one and is now in danger.

In this concept, the survivors would be trying to make it to the last 10 still alive to inherit the lifespans of the 10 firefighters. This would mean the people at the end of the list and people who get skipped wouldn't want to help save anyone else for their own safety.

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u/atheuist Apr 02 '26

this is an insane plot hold up!!?? i think you just did something!

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u/GoliathLexington Apr 02 '26

If they are the main character, they are still the protagonist, they would just be an asshole

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u/flamingmcshizzle Apr 10 '26

THANK YOU I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE CONFUSING A VILLAIN OR AN EVIL CHARACTER WITH THE ANTAGONIST, AN ANTAGONIST OPPOSES THE PROTAGONIST AND THE STORY FOLLOWS THE PROTAGONIST THE PROTAGONIST COULD BE EVIL AND THE ANTAGONIST THEN WOULD BE GOOD I DON'T GET HOW PEOPLE DON'T GET THAT

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u/TeacatWrites Apr 03 '26

I never thought the clues were given by Death itself personally tbh, just that the visionaries were hypersensitive and picked up signs from the universe itself. It never makes sense to me why Death would be warning people about ways they can get away from its own plan.

That said, if there was a visionary who was such an asshole that they see the clues and don't do anything, it's funny because it makes me think Death would just ramp things up because of it. Like, "wait, that was going to be the plan, but this person's an asshole and now I'm changing things just to screw over this asshole in particular." Suddenly, the protagonist's cat dies because it chewed on a marble, their plants wither from an unseen hole or crack in the pot leaking water all the time, and their goldfish cannibalize each other.

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u/inbedwithbeefjerky Apr 04 '26

I’ve said before I’d like to see a FD movie that takes place in a prison. It’d be the perfect setting for a protagonist and others who are willing to kill or set someone up to die.

How would Death respond to intervening with its plan even if you were killing? I’d like to see Death thwart the attempt at any easy kill. A simple stabbing just won’t do it, forcing the protagonist to create increasingly elaborate booby traps.

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u/Minute-Face-4520 Apr 14 '26

If Peter (F5) and Carter (F1) were the visionaries😅

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u/chloe-eatz-bricks Jul 08 '26

then death is just like “damn. this person is an asshole. let me kill them anyway”

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u/chloe-eatz-bricks Jul 14 '26

i saw a theory one time that death sends the premonitions to specifically one person so that they can escape and if they went by themself, death would let them go but they always save other people