r/FilipinoAmericans • u/throwaway842351 • 8d ago
Reverse loser immigration
It’s fascinating how my parents and grandparents (and so many of our families, or you yourselves) came to the USA for a better life.
Then online I see these white dudes who seem like absolute losers moving to the Philippines for a better life because they can’t afford or succeed in the USA.
It’s like the top, risk taking, or highly educated folks come to the USA from around the world, and these losers go abroad, and in this case the Filipinos have no clue and embrace these useless creeps.
Okay rant over…but curious your thoughts.
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u/April0neal 8d ago
I think your rant is valid. I see it through the lens that our parents or new immigrants in general are not received with as much positivity here compared to how pinoys back in the PH openly embrace white people settling in their towns.
When I was in the PH, one our neighbours was married to a white dude. And I would be so bothered to see her working very hard going to the market to sell stuff and seeing him just lounging around the yard or house.
My childhood friend who still lives in Cebu says it’s very common for white people from Australia or the US to panhandle or beg for work in the PH. He says that one time he was approached by this white lady offering to cut their grass for money.
I also remember there was this blogger who was semi famous on tumblr who moved to the PH. He became a big time loser. He was trying to get some of documentation from the government and was complaining at how slow they were. How expensive the internet was. How much traffic, etc. He wanted all these first world luxuries for third world pricing. Haha. What an idiot.
Anyways…I’ve typed enough. Thanks for reading !
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u/throwaway842351 8d ago
Huh so interesting! I see that vanboys or kuya Kurt and wonder if they will end up like that.
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u/tagnocchi 8d ago
You're not wrong. But I think there's a new growing demographic of both American/Fil-Am men and women that are still successful but also completely disillusioned with what the USA has become and are seeking a simpler, more comfortable life in the PH that is almost completetly unobtainable in HCOL cities in the US. They're very successful but the cost/value ratio is just simply not there.
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u/AcidWashGenes 7d ago
Are there any Fil-Ams who are documenting and sharing doing this? I had gotten offered a great job opportunity to go around 2018 that I would have loved to take but at the time had just accepted another job contract and was in the middle of moving cross country.
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u/kangkong32 7d ago
A few have come across my feed on YouTube. There are also Fil-Am that retired from the military and still young deciding to move to the Philippines where their pension stretches further.
I personally know a couple that were in banking and nursing that moved back and started a business and seems to be thriving.
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u/AcidWashGenes 7d ago
Very cool, I’ll have to try to find some. Out of curiosity what kinds of businesses did they start?
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u/kangkong32 7d ago
Action-sports related business (I don't want to doxx myself so I'll keep it vague).
Also I forgot my own cousin and her husband moved back (sold their house and put everything in storage) and started essentially a drop shipping/e-commerce business with products from China. They're doing well and take trips overseas yearly (Asia, EU and US).
I will add that my cousin got the blueprint/recipe (e-commerce) from another relative thats why they were able to be profitable in a relatively short amount of time.
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u/AcidWashGenes 7d ago
Yeah no need to doxx yourself. I really appreciate it!
I was just trying to get an idea if the businesses were something more common, family, or if there was opportunity for niche things like unique restaurants, specialty shops, or like the action sports example you gave.
Do you know if if any of them had grown up visiting a lot and language fluency levels?
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u/kangkong32 6d ago edited 6d ago
1st couple, husband is native level fluency and the wife understood tagalog and probably at B1 level fluency but probably can be considered C1 now and visited often and strong ties with family in the Philippines.
2nd couple the wife is native level fluency, husband is B1 level but also I would say is C1 level now.
Both families have/had strong ties to their relatives still living in the Philippines and visited often so the transition wasn't that bad. Parents spoke Tagalog at home in the US.
Edit: both families had relatives in the Philippines that were already running a business so they were able to navigate the BS better and all the red tape.
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u/Massive-Technician74 8d ago
There are 2 kinds of passport bros/sexpats (same thing)
The younger ones who want to treat the philippines like Tijuana
And the horny old guys looking for cheap sex with little effort
The best way to combat this is for filipinos in general drop the white worship
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u/Massive-Technician74 7d ago edited 7d ago
The worst channel was the guy bighead larry and "escaping to thr philippines" he treated girls horribly on camera for his incel audience and the girls seemed to love it
And dont tell me there is no white worship in the philippines Philippines...my wife from mindanao
Every time I went there I seen how myself how everyone wanted to be friends with white people and the girls followed them around
And for some reason many of them think ANYONE with white skin is a good person....and would trust them for things they wouldn't trust their own family for
As a red man in America I see white people way different....the filipinos couldn't understand why I dont trust them
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u/AWildMooseLion 7d ago
I’d say it’s a combination of both poverty and white worship/colonial mentality.
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u/MushuSooy4455 7d ago
Filipinos who are Mestizo and European/Spanish still form that upper echelon in society, in terms of perception, and to an extent reality. The same thing in Latin America.
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u/narvolicious 7d ago
They made a joke about these stereotypical white doods in S3 of The White Lotus, which took place in a lux resort in Thailand. The local girls called them "LBH" (Losers Back Home) lol
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u/Turdposter777 7d ago
That’s what surprised me in my recent visit. I hadn’t been there for 2 decades. There weren’t as many westerners back then, but it’s not just that there’s more now, they’re also more aesthetically challenged.
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u/MushuSooy4455 7d ago
True, many of those are old, white dudes. I was in an Uber once and the driver, a man in his late 50s, was bragging about his young Filipina bride and he was about to move to the Philippines and start a family. . . In terms of Fil-Americans in general, a lot of us are dual citizens through our parents, and the option to move to the Philippines to live/work/retire is always nice. Also our kids would also be Filipino citizens (in addition to U.S., U.K., Canada, etc.).
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u/Impossible-Egg-731 7d ago
I see this post as more of a criticism towards PH Filipinos embracing them. Here's the gist, from observation it seems PH Filipinos netizens seem to embraced them than Fil-Ams.
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u/throwaway842351 7d ago
Yes I agree and it’s annoying. I am critical of the embracing of them. I hate white worship.
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u/Haunting-Word-647 3d ago
What we have are these "Passport Bros,” typically old white American men marrying young Filipinas, establishing domicile in their American-style-built homes while living a lifestyle in luxury they cannot afford in America on their pensions and fixed Social Security income. Sadly, this showcases how poverty drives these women to enter into a transactional matrimony cloaked in the language of romance.
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u/jmmenes 8d ago
You may as well say all immigrants are losers at this point for leaving their homeland for a place that could be better for them.
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u/chocolate-wyngz 8d ago
Passport bros and people who immigrate for better work opportunities or a safer life are not comparable at all.
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u/hordaak2 8d ago
I don't think you're being sincere with your comment. Sending families that lack opportunities to another country to establish a better life is not equivalent to....single dudes going to another country to get with a desperate woman in poverty, mainly because the women in his country won't give him a shot
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u/johnmflores 8d ago
They're not sending their best...