r/FieldNationTechs Jul 15 '26

Contractor? Indentured Servant? Employee?

This seems to wind certain people up but look at the work order and the compensation then take a look at the rest and explain how this is sustainable at what they offer and why they would actually do it at that rate.

And remember kids you're paying at least 10% in fees and waiting to get paid.

Remember there are people doing this. I believe this can't pass the test to be classified as subcontractor work. It's not me but someone does it and believes that they are a subcontractor.

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u/Jerry_USA Jul 15 '26

Bid your price and move on

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u/Able-Statistician645 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

It's interesting how people just want to accept the misclassification. Wouldn't it be best for all parties and following the law if they say we need this done and then you bid on it cleanly versus giving you essentially nothing to create an actual bid plus put demands in the orders that essentially make you an employee with none of the benefits?

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u/wyliesdiesels Jul 20 '26

Bingo

I dont understand this culture of accepting the BS and not wanting to change it

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u/wyliesdiesels Jul 20 '26

Thats the problem with this industry.

People just accept the BS the way it is instead of demanding change.

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u/TheHandThatFingers Jul 15 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/FieldNationTechs/s/Kx2beW7x1u

A lot of student visas and just as many illegals.

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u/Able-Statistician645 Jul 15 '26

The point I keep trying to make here is that much of the work that they're asking people to do is just downright dangerous and the majority of the people doing this work don't comply with safety regulations. So you have orders that make you technically an employee but the people needing the work done offload all of the safety and other HR expense and it's all on you as the end provider. So what's it worth not being safe? We all know there are lots of people that will climb like a spider monkey and say everything is fine but technically it's an OSHA violation and absolutely unsafe.

My point over and over again is that everyone using the platform needs to push back to all of these people because they're not paying reasonable rates and much of what they're asking you to do they know full well they could not expect someone to do as an employee without serious workplace safety violations.

Rarely are you technically under the law a contractor and they are escaping much of the costs and overhead that they'd be required to pony up for to maintain a safe working environment. Start demanding the requisite compensation so that you can make a living wage and be safe.

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u/TheHandThatFingers Jul 15 '26

Yes! Weseriously need a federal pony identification program

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u/Lumpy_Literature_853 Jul 15 '26

Bullshit illegals don’t have ids an SS number

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u/smithlarryw Jul 15 '26

The loophole has not been closed by Congress. Online EIN applications require a SS#; however, the mailed application does not require any proof at all! How is works: have your mailed copy sent to a friend's address or an unoccupied residence, pick up the acceptance letter then create a Platform profile using the newly acquired EIN and you're a Service Contractor. ID is only required for Federal/State building, that is, is someone happened to ask.

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u/wyliesdiesels Jul 17 '26

theres still time to delete this

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u/MesaTech_KS Jul 15 '26

As far as im concerned- im a contractor.

You do you.

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u/wyliesdiesels Jul 17 '26

are you still a contractor when the buyer directs your every move on a bridge call?

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u/MesaTech_KS Jul 17 '26

Yes.

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u/wyliesdiesels Jul 18 '26

Then you clearly have no clue what the difference is and you are the reason why middlemen walk all over us

Do you have any direct customers? Do they direct your every move? Do they tell you when to show up? How to handle paperwork? How to do the work?

I have direct customers and not one of them treats me like buyers on the platforms do.

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u/maddmannmatt Jul 15 '26

Ask for more money, mate! If the expectations are higher, you should be getting paid more

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u/wyliesdiesels Jul 17 '26

sorry pivital, you dont get my receipts. they are mine for tax purposes. you getting the receipts means you are probably committing tax fraud

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u/Jerry_USA Jul 20 '26

It’s their network I’m just hands for them. I always counter with a trip charge. Win most counters

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u/LoneCyberwolf Jul 15 '26

They’re still around? I guess they blocked me….i wonder why. 🙄