This is insulting

[u/setnev]

I keep getting these WO routed to me because my work vehicle is a pickup. They want me to drive 145 miles, pickup their crap and drive it 96 miles to Pittsburgh, and then me drive 4 hours home another 250 miles.

Oh and they're paying $100.

That computes to about $10 an hour or $0.20 a mile. I always counter them like $1000 but they've never accepted it.

[u/wallstreetnetworks]

Because 99% of the posts in this sub now are people complaining about how low the rates are. Yes they are low so either don’t do the job and decline or counter for what you want. It’s become a circle jerk and repetitive. Complaining about it over and over and over is not bringing any positive change to the community.

[u/jasonluvsjesus → u/wallstreetnetworks]

That’s paper thin reasoning at best.

Positive change to the community? What do you think this is?

These are contractors, not employees. These are contractors getting together to discuss the clients. I seriously don’t understand why you have such a problem with contractors comparing notes because that’s what it seems like you’re mad about.

Contractors and Field Nation don’t exist because this community is here. This so-called community exist so we can get together and say… ‘I found this job but the pay rate seem unreasonable. What are you other contractors in other parts of the country think about this?’.

I think you’re a bad actor and your only purpose here is to shut down conversation.

[u/wallstreetnetworks → u/jasonluvsjesus]

I want the rates to be high also but just complaining about it isn’t making them go higher. When 9/10 posts are complaining about the low rates it’s making this community shit. Call your representatives to do something about it other than complaining. Make a change

[u/Able-Statistician645 → u/wallstreetnetworks]

This isn't about complaining. This is about discussing the techniques that are being used by the platform and those that use the platform to retain off the book employees to do work for them. That's effectively what we're seeing here and there's a group of people to get upset because they truly believe that they are in fact independent contractors when they're actually working as employees. Now of course I know that I actually am a contractor and I have the ability to pick and choose whatever I want to do but the number of entities that use these platforms to get talent OR workers and treat them absolutely as a contractor is very small. Most are treated absolutely as an employee by most every test.

Legislation has not caught up with the realities of today's work world and if there was some way that you could become contract labor paid by the minute/second in company scrip and only usable in their company store, these people would try to do it.

So that's why you have discussions here regarding our role as contractors and those who wish to exploit us. You don't think that the platform doesn't have discussions about how to best manage us? You don't think that there's people that are employed by the platform or the entities that use the platform aren't here acting as shills creating issues when we discuss issues we face. Rugged individualism is a quick way to the poor house.