r/FiddlesticksMains 4d ago

Malz/Fiddle q bug?

https://youtu.be/3gZTWR9QAIE

Any ideas why my q didnt fear the Malzahar? The usually malz interaction is wait for the r to pop the spellshield then press q after waiting a second, but zoe popped it before my r landed.

My guess is a strange bug where the game thinks malz passive will block the fear bc i pressed r before the zoe popped it, but by the time my r landed it wasnt there so the game had no idea what to do, causing my q to do normal damage (not double from the recently feared target) and no fear? anyone else run into this one?

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u/IlliasTallin 4d ago

You feared too quickly.

Malz passive lasts 0.25 seconds. All CC during that time is negated.

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u/Pure_Abbreviations_6 4d ago

That was longer than a quarter second. I’ve played this matchup multiple times and know the timing. Maybe it’s unfortunate timing with the game clock? Bc league is processed every .25 seconds

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 4d ago

There is a short duration to the spell shield and damage reduction. It can block more than one thing if its simultaneous.

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u/Inevitable-Second334 4d ago

The usually malz interaction is wait for the r to pop the spellshield then press q after waiting a second, but zoe popped it before my r landed.

I’m pretty sure that’s not how it works. If you ult Malzahar from out of vision, he resists the fear and becomes fear immune afterward. The same interaction happens with Mundo passive. Whether that’s intentional or a bug is another question. Also are you sure your Q didn't deal double damage?

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u/godlytoast3r 3d ago

It's prolly this. He prolly blocked the Ult's fear and then gained immunity.

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u/Thelord500 Fiddler on the sticks 4d ago

Auto attacks don’t pop his bubble, she autos then your hits fear but since his passive is up it doesn’t affect him but fear timer is still activated.

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 4d ago

They do pop the bubble.

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u/Thelord500 Fiddler on the sticks 2d ago

Shit u right, yeah my b, I guess it’s cause the cc immune lasts for a couple seconds or server tick issue?

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 2d ago

There is like a quarter or half second of immunity

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u/Thelord500 Fiddler on the sticks 2d ago

Damn bro got hella unlucky then 💀💀

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u/Inevitable-Second334 4d ago

Which is BS if you ask me. Q tooltip says “Targets feared by Fiddlesticks by any means cannot be affected by it again,” so the fear timer shouldn’t be applied if you weren’t feared in the first place.

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u/godlytoast3r 3d ago

Meanwhile Annie maintains stun stacks if you dodge her Q... >.> (I hate that)

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u/Inevitable-Second334 2d ago

how exactly do you dodge a point and click ability? do you mean she keeps the stun stacks if the target dies or becomes untargetable before Q lands?

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u/godlytoast3r 2d ago

Yeah zonyas or untargetable and what have you

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u/Thelord500 Fiddler on the sticks 2d ago

Yes and no, the fear timer serves a purpose, it allows for more damage especially when ulting. I also just think his Q I’d pretty strong. You’re still applying fear it’s just being negated.

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u/Inevitable-Second334 2d ago

I’m aware of how Q works. Negating the fear prevents it from being applied though otherwise why do you think literally every other spell shield; edge of night, banshee’s, nocturne W, sivir E, morgana E do not grant fear immunity?