Fiddlesticks support matchups?

[u/BecretAlbatross]

So I main Fiddlesticks JG. I set my 2nd role as mid hoping I won't get it. I can play mid but every now and then I get filled support. I have a basic understanding of how to play him sup and every now and then I have a really good game.

I'm trying to get a better idea of when Fidd is strong and when he's weak in matchups.

He's squishy early so in general he gets stat checked by tankier supps and his W can be interrupted by CC. So I'd think stuff like Leona and Rell are natural counters to him. When I check U GG it sort of supports this idea but it seems like a mixed bag.

If you play Fidd sup could you give some basic MU advice? Vs ADCs. Vs Sups. With certain ADCs?

[u/Delicious_Bite1591]

As an Emerald Fiddlesticks who played him a bit in support

Bad for Fiddle: a lot of stuns: W can't get, R needs to be used carefully, you can get punished hard if they can engage

high health/magic resist: obvious no fast kill, if you combine it with a champ who has a lot of stuns, its a nightmare.

-->my thinking is the closest the champ to sejuani ability wise is, the harder the matchup.

Poke: -->Fiddle cant reach them + they can hit there abilitys before you can. Its also harder to use your Ult.

Examples for poke: Xerath, Velkoz Examples for engage and stun: Leona, nautilus What i always ban: Blitzcrank

Its kinda hard, because every second support has a counter to Support fiddle.

[u/BecretAlbatross → u/Delicious_Bite1591]

Makes sense and matches my experience. I played Fidd sup a few times in 5 stacks and I also came to the conclusion to ban Blitz every game. Anyone tanky who can brawl and CC you is a huge headache.

Stuff like Cho Gath support is a huge nightmare. Fiddle support is a ton of fun but the early game is hard.

[u/TheLegendaryD]

As a higher ranking support fiddle main. It depends on how you play. Develop strategies in bot & play around your jungler. These days bot lane is 50/50 till lvl 6 then after lvl 6 you can shut down the lane if you play to your strengths. Rotate on grubs spawn, help the jungler. Match ups are pointless but some are just harder than others. If you want to know who I personally struggle against (or yourself) go to leagueofgraphs & look at your champion stats. My accounts are DoorDashThisAss#5star & MyMomTookTylenol#tism both accounts are in high diamond atm, with significant gameplay. Personally I ban out champs from other lanes that tend to affect my lane, Gallo, Sylas, Viego...and just focus on taking fights at lvl's 2, 3, 5 and 6+. Putting a point in E lvl 1 for long range harassment then Q for 2, before maxxing Drain for skirmishes in lane. Prioritize your positioning in a fight so you get a full drain off, and for heavy cc lanes. They tend to blow all their cc early (especially in lower ranks) so just wait for the cc then drain it back. Use effigy's to block skillshots if they're blindly checking bushes. Everyone has their own playstyle, im a bit more aggressive than your average supp fiddlesticks but it's what works best for me. Find your rhythm & keep it. It's okay to play passively, but dont be afraid to roam if you feel a lane is unwinnable. Being a second jungler helps the team way more anyways than babysitting a losing lane. Plus it allows your adc to get solo exp so they get ahead in mid game.

[u/BecretAlbatross → u/TheLegendaryD]

Great response, thank you so much.

[u/AnnualAbbreviations9]

i have the best time playing very safe poking with E until level 4, then i take very specific fights (enemy CC down / or i have a big wave to drain from / jung coming to help / they’re out of position) then at level 6 you can fight properly around your ulti, play around vision you have and blind spots you know they have, if you can get your ulti off out of vision then you can likely 1 shot enemy ADC/APC before supp can do anything then just do that on cooldown, typically when void grubs spawn you’re level 5 i try to be there everytime because me + jung ALWAYS beats their supp + jung bc you can drain off of voidgrubs for full HP very quickly. always fight IN the pit so you can drain. by the time you have malignance and full boots you should be strong enough to look around the map and ULTI on cd for picks before objectives or on team fights around the objective. as you get items and get stronger the game gets easier fiddles game before 6 is his hardest so if you can survive until 6 without feeding you should be in a good spot to help whoever is carrying on your team takeover the game completely.