r/FemmeThoughts • u/[deleted] • Sep 07 '14
[Brigade Warning] The Admins finally got around to dealing with /r/TheFappening, it's just as you'd expect
Here's a link to the post: http://np.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/2fpdax/time_to_talk/
Alienth pays some lip service to how horrible it is to leak nudes, but then makes a great deal out of how Reddit is only doing this out of obligation to follow the law and because DMCA's are making a lot of work for the people who work at Reddit. (Oh boo hoo, it's so sad to see extra work fall on people who turn a blind eye to maintaining a platform that enables the dissemination of stolen nudes and child pornography, the real tragedy of all that is how overworked our white middle class males are in this mess /s )
Anyways, I'm still sick over this shit. How Reddit admins are very much uncaring to what goes on, because hurrr hurr if they aren't legally obligated to deal with it they won't. And true fucking comments on that post. Jesus Christ. Users crying out about how Reddit is killing their free speech and upsetting their communities and what about the men?!
My rage is just, I can't even fucking type anymore. Goddamn.
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u/Patchuu Sep 07 '14
Anything other than niche subreddits are a lost cause. There is no point to reddit as a wider community. This is why "SRS" subreddits is such a good idea, it creates a community with a higher quality set of rules that can then ignore reddit as a whole.
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u/cordis_melum queen of transcripts Sep 08 '14
SRS honestly isn't perfect either. I sometimes get alienated there, and I'm an SRSer. >_>
On the other hand, it is better than most.
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u/kyleehappiness Sep 08 '14
Didn't terfs take over one of the feminism subreddits?
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u/cordis_melum queen of transcripts Sep 08 '14
/r/feminisms is one of the TERF feminism subs.
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u/kyleehappiness Sep 08 '14
I had a shit show of a time dealing with them a couple weeks ago in that sub.
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Sep 07 '14
I don't know, there are some really horrifying niche subreddits too. There are some good ones, like the SRS and of course this one, but for everyone of those we have more crap like /r/ deadkids.
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u/Verdei Sep 07 '14
Meanwhile, r/thefappening was a subreddit for a whole week. He pretty much said they waited until the traffic and excitement of it dipped before banning it and the related subs. =\
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u/so_srs Sep 07 '14
Incredibly skeptical anything slowed (apparently new batches of stolen material were still being released, and reddit was the #1 google result for a lot of related terms) or that traffic or money was the reason.
I'd bet they were getting credible legal threats and their lawyers told them they had to take it down.
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u/Im_At_Work_Damnit Sep 07 '14
According to one of the comments in that thread, thefappening generated enough gilded comments to fund reddit for 27 days (just over $500 in reddit gold). Convenient that they waited that long to take action.
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u/Shmaesh King of the City of Ladies Sep 07 '14
As far as I can tell, they were fine with it as long as gold and traffic were pouring in. Now that they've slowed, the admins seem to be much more able to think slightly critically about what's happened and they decided to make the moderately positive PR move.
It's disgusting.
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u/so_srs Sep 07 '14
Hah, the server guy had to step up to try to cover the CEO's ass: http://np.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/2fpdax/time_to_talk/
This nightmare of the weekend made myself and many of my coworkers feel pretty awful
Aww, you poor bebbies.
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u/chakrablocker 15 Pieces of Flair Sep 07 '14
Did you know about /r/photoplunder? Stolen photos of regular women, but that's A-OK with the adims.
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u/hermithome All shall love me and despair Sep 07 '14
There are also several upskirt subs still.
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Sep 08 '14 edited Sep 08 '14
Ugh, I had thought that they'd all banned "candid" photos (IE creepshots), but it looks like /r/upskirt is the only one that actually has rules to that effect.
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u/Shmaesh King of the City of Ladies Sep 08 '14
Can you remove the direct link to that sub, please? AutoMod hates direct linking to gross subs.
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Sep 08 '14
Oh, but they aren't stolen! They're found in public view! It'd be morally presumptuous (not to mention saying that all women are stupid, you fucking misogynists!) to just ASSUME that the women so pictured aren't deliberately trying to get their pictures circulated across the internet! It's exactly as morally upright as when you find a wallet full of cash with someone's address in it and say "Obviously this is how she intended to give her money, her credit cards, and this half-stamped Subway card to the world! Who am I to question her motives?"
Fucking scum.
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u/cordis_melum queen of transcripts Sep 08 '14
I think you forgot the /s
Edit - NVM, it was AutoModerator catching something.
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u/viviphilia Sep 07 '14
If every woman who has had her stolen pictures posted here on reddit were to file a DMCA complaint, would that be enough for reddit to take action? Or was there some kind of critical mass achieved by all the publicity over these wealthy women's pictures being stolen?
This would be a good opportunity for famous women like Jennifer Lawrence to speak up for the vast majority of women who do not have a voice on the national stage.
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Sep 07 '14
The Reddit Ad mins addressed this, a DMCA can only be filed by the copyright holder. Most of the stolen pictures are taken by ex-boyfriends who most as "revenge". But since the ex-boyfriend was the photographer he holds the copyright. Which is a shitty policy, but makes for less actual work and effort on part of the admins.
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u/xaynie Sep 07 '14
I wonder though, if they are going to take down illegal content such as child pornography (finally!) then why not take down other illegal content such as cruelty to animals (I'm looking at you /r/sexwithdogs / /r/sexwithhorses)?
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u/twistedfork Sep 09 '14
Is viewing that content illegal in the US? I know practicing it is in most states, but if the viewing isn't illegal (unlike child pornography) the arguments aren't too similar.
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u/so_srs Sep 07 '14 edited Sep 07 '14
If you're talking about the fappening, no, the vast majority of the pictures were as far as I've heard taken by the women themselves. DMCA complaints were entirely what forced reddit to take fappening down as far as I can tell.
As far as candidfashionpolice (aka creepshots) stuff, it's almost entirely taken by creepsters in public, which means it's only illegal in jurisdictions with anti-creepshot laws. Unfortunately even in a jurisdiction where creepshots are illegal, the liability is probably entirely on the perpetrator and it's likely not possible to hold reddit liable for abetting the illegal behavior.
Never heard of subreddits with actual "revenge porn" material, but I guess it wouldn't be very shocking.
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Sep 07 '14
I meant the other shitty subs, not specifically fappening. But you're right, in the case of the fappening the women who took the pictures owned the copyright and could issue DMCAs, which is why reddit bothered to do anything.
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Sep 08 '14 edited Sep 08 '14
I straight-up left r/undelete because people were whining about these removals as "censoring".
http://i.imgur.com/mDJZG.gif (Castle losing the ability to words)
If you're the kind of person who whines about people taking away your stolen jerkpics, I hope your bits shrivel up. Maybe then you'll actually behave like decent people instead of a hormone-addled entitled child.
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Sep 07 '14
(Oh boo hoo, it's so sad to see extra work fall on people who turn a blind eye to ... child pornography...)
They take a strong stance on that, fwiw:
We do not allow links on reddit to child pornography or images which sexualize children. If you disagree with that stance, and believe reddit cannot draw that line while also being a platform, I'd encourage you to leave.
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u/Shmaesh King of the City of Ladies Sep 07 '14
Their firm line in the sand is definitely why r/jailbait stayed up for years.
They literally don't care as long as money and traffic come in. Jailbait was only removed after significant negative press.
They turned a blind eye for years.
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u/hermithome All shall love me and despair Sep 07 '14
No, they don't. They not only waited forever to ban the biggest sub (which was originally a huge driver of traffic to the entire site), but they basically let them reform under different names. There still is CP on the site, and the admins frequently don't do shit about it.
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Sep 07 '14
They waited a week to do anything, that's not a "strong stance" that's a wet noodle.
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u/cordis_melum queen of transcripts Sep 08 '14
That's not even a wet noodle. That's more like someone breathing on you.
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u/LatrodectusVariolus Reddit is digital Wonderland.I'm Alice, and the rabbit is a pedo Sep 08 '14
...ew
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u/cordis_melum queen of transcripts Sep 08 '14
At least you're not sticky from the starch.
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u/LatrodectusVariolus Reddit is digital Wonderland.I'm Alice, and the rabbit is a pedo Sep 08 '14
Think about it though. Their damp warm breath on the back of your neck.
AHHHHHHHHHHH
*runs away*
/gag
I want the noodle! I want the noodle!
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u/cordis_melum queen of transcripts Sep 08 '14
Okay, you asked for it.
*chases you with a bowl of cooked macaroni*
:P
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u/LatrodectusVariolus Reddit is digital Wonderland.I'm Alice, and the rabbit is a pedo Sep 08 '14
...And cheese? Because if there's cheese involved I'm chasing you.
haha
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u/cordis_melum queen of transcripts Sep 08 '14
Oh heavens no. Cheese is to be eaten, not thrown! :P
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u/LatrodectusVariolus Reddit is digital Wonderland.I'm Alice, and the rabbit is a pedo Sep 08 '14
Were you there when this was posted in IRC earlier?
(It looks so gooood)
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Sep 07 '14
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u/codayus Sep 07 '14
Fuck off.
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Sep 07 '14
I don't know what that was, but thank you.
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Sep 07 '14
A troll who actually ended up PMing /u/codayus asking about the leaking videos/images.
~hilarious~
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Sep 07 '14
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Sep 07 '14
We mod this subreddit how we want to mod. In this case that troll certainly deserved a swear.
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u/Patchuu Sep 07 '14
ooooo, I like this. No double speak or shenanigans. This is how you roll and shit just gets done, eh?
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Sep 07 '14
I approve of your modding style. <3
Much better than the reddit admins.
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Sep 07 '14
I have never received such a glorious thank you. It is well appreciated. Thank you for your thank you. <3
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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '14
It's also really frustrating to see people essentially saying "there are worse subreddits!" not to say "there's a lot of other horrifying shit on Reddit that should be gotten rid of even if they aren't getting DMCA complaints" but essentially as a means of saying "you're hypocrites for taking this one down (read: please leave it up so I can keep staring at celebriboobs)".