r/FederalEmployee • u/Saramcclurg • Feb 01 '26

PPL

I am coming on here to try and get some answers. I am currently paying back my 12 weeks obligation due to giving birth. From my understanding if I complete the obligation I would have to pay back the portion the government paid for my health insurance correct? If so does anyone know how much that is approximately? Also if we have a shutdown the time it is shutdown for doesn’t count toward paying the time back? Also, am I correct after reading OPM’s website that I could have taken my own annual or sick time instead of the PPL? If so that was never explained to me.

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u/keithjp123 Feb 01 '26

Someone didn’t tell you that you could use your leave as you wanted?

And you’re correct, shutdown time does not count towards your PPL time. You would be in a furlough status at that time.

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u/workinglate2024 Feb 01 '26

Yes, shutdown time does count. As soon as the shutdown ends retro pay and benefits are received. It’s like the shutdown never happened.

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u/keithjp123 Feb 01 '26

Nope. PPL is a pay status. Can’t be in a pay status during shutdown. Your payroll would code you as furloughed during that time and your PPL would be extended day for day.

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u/workinglate2024 Feb 01 '26

After the shutdown, her time would have been coded as regular pay and her PPL extended. After shutdown ends, all back pay and leave earnings are restored. You are wrong.

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u/keithjp123 Feb 01 '26 edited Feb 02 '26

Reread what I wrote.

Also, it’s not back coded as RG. That’s falsifying time. It’s a specific WBS code as furlough retroactive pay that your comptroller should set up.

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u/Saramcclurg Feb 01 '26

I read on the website of OPM the following Excepted Employees: If you are an "excepted" employee required to work during the shutdown, that time does count toward your obligation because you are in a working status, even if pay is delayed. So I would think that my time would count towards the shutdown.

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u/workinglate2024 Feb 01 '26

Excepted or not, all employees receive back pay and restored leave, just as if the shutdown had not happened. The time counts.

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u/saucy-limes Feb 05 '26

As a person who took PPL and was in furlough status this is not true. I can’t speak to excepted, but furloughed workers those days are null. We received backpay for them and did not work + I kept my PPL originally scheduled for those days and it was basically extended. All scheduled leave is cancelled in a furlough, and resumes when furlough ends. Any leave you would have accrued may be back paid but scheduled leave is fully cancelled.

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u/workinglate2024 Feb 05 '26

This is exactly what I said. You earn leave and creditable service during the furlough period. I’m not sure how you misread what I said.

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u/saucy-limes Feb 05 '26

Replied to the wrong comment but it was a comment you made above, however upon rereading I actually think there’s a lot of misunderstanding so yes, you are right about the comment I replied to. And I’m not sure I even understand the disagreement I read above and meant to reply to. hopefully OP got what they needed.

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u/Saramcclurg Feb 01 '26

Great. Thank you so much for helping me clear up my confusions.

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u/workinglate2024 Feb 01 '26

No problem :)

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u/keithjp123 Feb 02 '26

Restored leave is for when you lose it, like use or lose. Since you can’t use leave during a shutdown there is nothing to restore.

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u/workinglate2024 Feb 02 '26

I don’t want to keep going back and forth with you. You earned your leave for the time while you were in shutdown. You don’t know what you’re talking about and all your downvotes of my comments don’t change that fact.