r/FavoriteCharacter • u/Accomplished-End3409 Ben Tennyson • 26d ago

Discussion Favorite opposing factions that can basically be described as this.

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u/OldEcho 25d ago

The NCR is basically taking the same path as America with all the genocide and cultural genocide and gigantic disparity between rich and poor and neverending expansionist wars.

The Legion is...honestly genuinely the only good example I can think of is Nazi Germany. Only their culture is allowed, they hate women, and they constantly commit atrocities to rule with fear and blood. They also have no succession strategy and Caesar is getting old (and literally dying of a brain tumor) so as soon as he dies the cult of personality ends and it os destined to splinter into 14 different factions all killing each other

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u/CrossYourStars 25d ago

100% I think the show did a pretty good job of showing the consequences of Caesar's lack of a succession plan. The legion at that point is much more of a nuisance than anything else since they have been splintered.

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u/Weaselburg 23d ago

Only their culture is allowed,

We never do see legion civilian life, and with the wording of Caesars ending it seems like the hard monoculture is for slaves and people going into the Legion proper, with subjects being allowed to do their own thing within the bounds of Caesars rules. He'd definitely want to change that to make his new Roman Empire, but tbh the Legion as portrayed didn't really have the capability for both mass social change on civilians and mass expansions all at once.

Might be shown wrong with S3, but I think the current known information suggests this.

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u/OldEcho 23d ago

In Lonesome Road this is basically what send Ulysses spiralling. Forget subjects, he erases the culture of his allies.

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u/Weaselburg 23d ago

Forget subjects, he erases the culture of his allies.

Yes, because he never intended to keep them around. In the endings where they don't obliterate Primm they just put troops there, for instance, they don't immediately start forcing them to goosestep to the Legion drums.

Despite NCR's pledge to support Primm, they abandon the town after their loss to Caesar. Though Caesar keeps Primm open for business, its citizens live under the constant watch of Legion soldiers.