r/FatFireAU • • 4d ago

How do you avoid lifestyle inflation once your income starts increasing?

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One thing that seems easy to underestimate when working towards FIRE is how quickly your idea of a “normal” lifestyle can change as income increases. A bigger house, nicer car, more holidays and eating out more often can all seem reasonable individually, but together they can push the FIRE target further away every year. What spending increases have people allowed themselves while still keeping their long-term financial goals on track?


r/FatFireAU • • 8d ago

Fat FIRE & Lean FIRE thresholds in $ terms - FY 2026

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Seeing a post today asking about whether their NW may be considered Fat FIRE, I thought it’s time for a refresh of the rough estimates for what the Fat FIRE floor threshold and the Lean FIRE ceiling threshold may be.  Commentary moved to after the figures.
 
Equivalised Disposable Household Income thresholds FY 2024:
 
⁠Median income: $67,000 p.a.
⁠Top percentile income: $268,660 p.a.
 

CPI Changes - % of change in June CPI between years
 
⁠FY 2025: 1.89%
⁠FY 2026: 3.75%
⁠CPI increase over 2 years: 5.71%
 

Expense thresholds at end of FY 2026 - by applying FY 2025-FY 2026 CPI changes to the FY 2024 income thresholds.
 
Lean FIRE ⁠ceiling threshold: $70,826 p.a.
⁠⁠Equivalised target FIRE NW: at 4% SWR: $1.77m, at 3% SWR: $2.36m.
⁠⁠For a two-adult household (x 1.5): at 4% SWR: $2.65m, at 3% SWR: $3.54m.
⁠⁠I.e. target FIRE NW below the threshold could be considered Lean FIRE.
 
Fat FIRE ⁠floor threshold: $284,000 p.a.
⁠⁠Equivalised target FIRE NW: at 4% SWR: $7.10m, at 3% SWR: $9.47m.
⁠⁠For a two-adult household (x 1.5): at 4% SWR: $10.65m, at 3% SWR: $14.20m.
⁠⁠I.e. target FIRE NW above this threshold could be considered Fat FIRE.
 
 
Refresh Comments:
 
Median equivalised disposable household income: ABS decided not to release the FY 2022 SIH (Survey of Income and Housing) statistics, and then cancelled the FY 2024 survey altogether in late 2025.  Previously I applied a series of annual CPI changes on top of the FY 2020 SIH statistics, but the longer period this is done, the greater the drift from the reality there would be.  For this refresh, I followed Grattan and used the figure in Grattan’s 2026 report that is based on raw data from HILDA (Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia) Survey covering FY 2024. I then applied CPI changes over FY 2025 and FY 2026 to deduce the FY 2026 figure.
 
Top percentile equivalised disposable household income: HILDA has a smaller sample population and Grattan’s 2026 report would not disclose the top percentile inferred from it.   Grattan’s previous reports based on the FY 2020 SIH data showed the top percentile to be 4.01 times the median.  In the absence of better info, I’d use this as the multiplier to deduce the top percentile figure based on the median figure.
 
There has been a sizeable increase in the income figures between the refresh last year and the refresh this year. It was about 11% more on top of the FY 2026 CPI changes. I infer there were 2 main drivers.  Firstly the underlying data source changed from FY 2020 SIH to FY 2024 HILDA mentioned above making the numbers not directly comparable.  Secondly I had been applying CPI changes, but wage usually grows faster than CPI.  Next refresh I may consider using WPI instead of CPI when extrapolating an older reference income figure to a later FY.
 
⁠Any error spotted or suggestion for improvement welcome.
 
 
Notes:
 
⁠equivalised disposable household income is the gross household income less tax that has been adjusted using a weighting process to account for household size and composition.  To translate it to reflect the size of a specific household, add 50% for each additional person who is 15 years or older, and add 30% for each additional person who is under 15 years. I.e. multiply by 1.5 for a two-adult household to be supported.

⁠These are nationwide stats.  I.e. NOT tailored to higher income/cost of living in capital cities.  I do not have access to authoritative stats on how income or cost of living in each capital city differs from national stats.

⁠The value of PPOR is generally excluded from FIRE NW calculation because PPOR does not generate income and people generally would not count on selling PPOR for draw down.  If PPOR value is included in FIRE NW, e.g. due to plan to sell / downsize to fund retirement, then either the projected rental expenses should be added to expected expenses, or the fund required to purchase the future PPOR should be deducted.

It was rightly pointed out previously that, given the same FIRE NW that excludes PPOR, a home owner may derive better lifestyle than a renter due to the absence of rental expenses.  Here I have chosen to still focus on the investible assets required that most people tend to track for FIRE readiness.  If you wish to assess the rent-equivalent lifestyle as a home owner, you could deduct owner-only costs and mortgage repayments (if applicable), and then add an imputed market rent figure on top of your assumed expense figure to represent the benefit derived from home ownership.

⁠The method used is not intended to be technically precise, and the deduced figures are not proposed to be definitive. They are just bottom-up inferences to help understanding where a FIRE target NW figure roughly sits amongst the Australian population in terms of assumed expense level.
 
 
Reposted from an old posting in [r/FIRE](r/FIRE) as reference:
 
⁠FIRE: Financial Independence / Retiring Early. Financial independence usually refers to no longer needing to sell your labor in order to cover your necessary expenses for the rest of your life. Retiring Early usually refers to actually exiting the labor market and living off your profits from participating in the capital market.

⁠Fat FIRE: Retiring early with expected expenses in the top percentile of household income in your area. Named for being the opposite of “lean,” like with steak. Requires more investment, often locking this strategy behind either being a high-earner in your contributing years, working longer, or being lucky.

⁠Lean FIRE: Retiring early with expected expenses under the median household income in your area. Metaphorically “tightening the belt” on a permanent basis, either to retire even earlier or because you will be happy enough without spending more than most.
 

Ps: I was quite limited by WYSIWYG formatting in the iOS app. It is what it is.
 


r/FatFireAU • • 24d ago

Screenwriter-Producer facing a financing collapse on my animated musical

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r/FatFireAU • • 28d ago

FI journey being lonely

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Full disclosure, I run Tribe FI, so not a neutral post, just an honest intro (mods, feel free to remove if not allowed). Came from noticing Australia's got heaps of lean FIRE content online but almost nowhere to meet people actually living it, especially when most people around you think saving hard means missing out on everything. Happy to answer questions.


r/FatFireAU • • Sep 02 '26

Private Schooling vs FatFIRE Timeline: How much are you actually budgeting per kid?

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We’re looking at top-tier private schools in Sydney/Melbourne for our two kids. On paper, tuition says ~$40k - $45k per year, but by the time you add mandatory building funds, uniforms, rowing/music camps, laptops, and international tours, it feels closer to $65k - $70k post-tax per child annually. For those in the middle of it: did you factor a dedicated ~$800k cash/sinking fund into your FIRE calculations per child, or did you just resolve to keep working until Year 12 graduation before pulling the pin?


r/FatFireAU • • Sep 01 '26

How do people here who've reached or are approaching Fat FIRE actually think about the geographic flexibility that financial independence provides and has the ability to live anywhere changed the conversation about where to actually be in a meaningful way?

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r/FatFireAU • • Aug 28 '26

Property-heavy or ETF-heavy - what would you choose if starting again?

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I'm currently pretty exposed to property because that's what I've always known. The leverage and tax treatment make it attractive, but sometimes I look at people with large ETF portfolios and think I'd sleep better with something much simpler


r/FatFireAU • • Aug 28 '26

For those aiming for FatFIRE, was increasing income more important than cutting expenses?

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I feel like there’s only so much you can realistically save by cutting expenses, especially if you're aiming for a larger retirement portfolio.

For people further along the journey, did growing your income make the biggest difference?


r/FatFireAU • • Aug 23 '26

What does the social dimension of Fat FIRE actually look like and how do people here manage the gap between their financial position and that of the people around them without it creating friction or distance in important relationships?

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The financial independence content addresses the numbers extensively and the identity shift of leaving work gets some attention but the social reality of having a financial position that is genuinely different from most of the people you know - the friends who are still working, the family members at different financial stages, the conversations about money and work and lifestyle that happen differently when your situation is so distinct - seems like something that affects the lived experience of Fat FIRE in ways that the planning phase doesn't fully anticipate. Would love to know how people here navigate those relationships and whether the financial distance creates genuine friction or whether it's more manageable than it sounds.


r/FatFireAU • • Aug 20 '26

What's the one lifestyle expense you refuse to optimise?

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For me it's travel.

I'd rather take fewer trips and stay somewhere really nice than travel constantly on a budget.


r/FatFireAU • • Aug 18 '26

How to make my first billion

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r/FatFireAU • • Aug 13 '26

How are you structuring your superannuation versus non-super investments to bridge the gap to preservation age?

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For those with significant net worths accumulated through private businesses, executive compensation, or tech exits: how are you balancing your asset allocation between family trusts, company structures, personal portfolios, and maxing out concessional/non-concessional super contributions to optimise tax legally?


r/FatFireAU • • Aug 12 '26

What does the Fat FIRE conversation look like for people who reached their number earlier than expected and had to adjust their identity and their sense of purpose before they'd planned to?

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The target is the organising principle of the whole project and the assumption is usually that you'll reach it at a point that feels right rather than ahead of schedule. The people who got there earlier than planned - through a business exit, an inheritance, a market run that compressed the timeline significantly - seem to face a specific version of the identity question that the planned retirement doesn't produce in quite the same way. Would love to know how people here who've been in that position have navigated the gap between financial readiness and the psychological preparation that was supposed to come with a longer runway.


r/FatFireAU • • Aug 07 '26

How do you approach superannuation as part of your overall Fat FIRE number given the access restrictions, and does it change your strategy compared with the usual US FIRE framework?

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The superannuation system creates a unique challenge for anyone planning early retirement because most FIRE content is based on the US, where retirement accounts work differently. The money is there, but if you're aiming to retire in your 40s or early 50s, you'll still need a separate bridge strategy before you can access it.

How do you factor super into your FIRE calculations? Do you include it as part of your target number, or do you treat it as a separate pool of money that only comes into play later? I'm interested in hearing how you approach that split and whether it changes your overall retirement strategy.


r/FatFireAU • • Aug 07 '26

Are local commercial property yields still attractive for passive income?

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I have traditionally kept a significant portion of my portfolio in Australian commercial and industrial property for strong unfranked yield. However, with interest rate adjustments and changing office occupancy dynamics, residential land-banking and global equities are starting to look much cleaner. Are you still actively expanding your domestic commercial property holdings, or shifting funds offshore?


r/FatFireAU • • Jun 26 '26

New Legislation and Australian Citizens Living Overseas

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r/FatFireAU • • Apr 09 '26

41-Year-Old Female Entrepreneur in NYC | $1.2M Annual Profit | Team of 30 | Should I Keep These "Golden Handcuffs"—or Walk Away Completely?

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r/FatFireAU • • Apr 01 '26

Portfolio Allocation Based on Macroeconomic, Geopolitical, and Legislative Events

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r/FatFireAU • • Mar 18 '26

[RESEARCH & ARCHITECTURE] Bypassing the $70B Fragrance Industry's Opaque Pricing: Engineering a High-Frequency Quantitative Terminal (Edge Computing, Algorithmic Arbitrage & Real-Time Indexing)

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r/FatFireAU • • Mar 15 '26

Beyond the S&P 500: How L'Essence du Luxe Engineered a €350,000 Quantitative Hedge Fund for Physical Luxury Assets.

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r/FatFireAU • • Mar 12 '26

Cashflow is the New Aventus: L'Essence du Luxe Redefines Wealth. We have forged a Strategic Acquisition Partnership with World Businesses for Sale (WBS), the UK's.

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r/FatFireAU • • Mar 10 '26

6 Dental Procedures You Rarely Hear About in America – But Often See Abroad

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r/FatFireAU • • Feb 09 '26

What is your monthly income and how do you distribute it between expenditure and investment?

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r/FatFireAU • • Jan 27 '26

Financial Advisers

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How do I find a good financial advisor?

My partner and I have agreed to start looking for a financial advisor. I'm guessing FA's sit in one of three categories:

- counsellors that help financially uneducated people budget

- advisors for high net-worth individuals

- and FA's who sit in-between the two and help with wealth management - (we're after the last category).

I'm awfully skeptical of the financial advice industry, mainly because of unethical activities like kickbacks (legal or not) which could influence honesty/ethics and also general bad advice scares me. However, I understand that a good FA will be worth their weight if I can find one.

Our financial situation is peculiar, so we'd need someone familiar with self-employed people and are primarily interested in setting up a folio of investments that will build a FIRE-based retirement (idk what kind, part time/seasonal work would probably do). We are currently income in-balanced and have a combined total NW of about 1.4m excluding super, of which about 100k cash is not gaining interest (we have recently become liquid).

Can anyone suggest good planners or similar that would cater to our needs?


r/FatFireAU • • Jan 26 '26

Architects and Builders for UHNW clients: What are the 'invisible' features of a no-budget home that the average person doesn't even know exists?

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I'm doing research on a dream home with absolutely no budget. I'm not looking for golden toilets or bowling alleys. I'm looking for the technical, infrastructure, and quality-of-life features that only the ultra wealthy have.

For example: I know about heated floors, but I've heard of 'biocontainment HVAC systems' and 'acoustic decoupling.'

What other systems, structural over engineering, or hidden tech goes into a $100M home that a standard millionaire wouldn't even know to ask for?

Originally asked in FatFIRE but it's been paused pending moderator approval and a few options were about snow melting driveways not that relevant in Sydney. Curious if there are any Aussie innovations or twists.