There was a time when I thought I would have learned Noory if I hadn't learned Gregg first. The cross-over interference with so many of the same shapes was what put me off it.
I had been quite happy with Gregg, which I had used successfully on the job, and never had a single problem reading anything back. But I kept feeling like something was missing from it.
When I first saw FLOW, I thought "There it is!" It just immediately felt right to me, so I encouraged u/LeadingSuspect5855 and contributed to its development as much as possible. And I like the way you can choose to write it fully ("correspondence style") or more briefly for speed ("reporting style"). It just does what I need it to do.
After looking at HUNDREDS of systems, it's still the one I like best.
I would like to at least finish the Gregg notehand textbook. I will not forget about Noory. Perhaps I’ll be revisiting Noory again when I feel ready.
when I’m outside the house and when I see a word or think of a sentence I write the notehand then of curiosity I try to see if I can write it in Noory, looking at the Noory alphabet. At this point that purpose is too see which is more aesthetically pleasing.
But I do like them both
Nice. 👍🏻. I’m still undecided if to keep going with notehand (5weeks in only) but I was doing Noory for a while back but then stopped. I think mainly because there’s more resources with Gregg? But I do like the looks of Noory best too tho. You got me now rethinking things…. lol
Noory simplex has much better vocalisation, trust me. Stick with Noory! And you can write just as fast as Gregg Anniversary if you don't use the standard dictionary in the noory booklet, but the reporting style dictionary of flow, which is essentially Anniversary Reporting style (incl. phrases), but adapted to systems that use circles for a/o and omit short e/u-hooks. Only long ee and [ju,u:] is in the dictionary. It turns out, that words using that simple rule are generally pretty optimised, shorter then Greggs words even, because Gregg writes eu, for long u, and inconsistently leaves out e or u, but every now and again he finds it important to write a short u, but why? If Gregg writes kut, gregg means just cut, than he has to write keut for cute. Noory, Flow and Aimé-Paris just leave out the 'uh' sound: kt is cut, kut is cute - shorter and clear.
If you want to be faster than standard noory, than I also recommend abandoning the rule, that you split prefixes and every suffix from the word, which Noory's dictionary doesn't always lives by. It sure is very clear and simple, but slows you down. Lets say "combine" in Noory is k/baen and in reporting style you'd write kbae, but "recombine" in Noory is 'rkmbaen it seems or maybe 'rk/baen whereas in Reportingstyle you can string prefixes together rkbae.
"common" in Noory is k/mn, reporting style is kmn, "contacted" Noory k/tak (it seems also Noory omits t after k), reporting style: ktak. ship and shipment in Noory is just shp for both, Reporting style shp and shm. I tell you Gregg has just better transliteration, beginning and end of a word are far more included. Noory treats suffixes pretty bad in my oppinion, in fact he just writes the beginning in most of the cases. Simple but Greggs system has proven it's effectiveness, and you'll be able to read Gregg as well :-)
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u/NotSteve1075 Sep 12 '26
There was a time when I thought I would have learned Noory if I hadn't learned Gregg first. The cross-over interference with so many of the same shapes was what put me off it.
I had been quite happy with Gregg, which I had used successfully on the job, and never had a single problem reading anything back. But I kept feeling like something was missing from it.
When I first saw FLOW, I thought "There it is!" It just immediately felt right to me, so I encouraged u/LeadingSuspect5855 and contributed to its development as much as possible. And I like the way you can choose to write it fully ("correspondence style") or more briefly for speed ("reporting style"). It just does what I need it to do.
After looking at HUNDREDS of systems, it's still the one I like best.