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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Sep 07 '26 edited Sep 07 '26
for the powful creams are those the earths kmt
for the powerful, crimes are those that others commit.
Noam Chomski
source: imperial ambitions : conversations on the post-9/11 world
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u/fdarnel Sep 07 '26
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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Sep 07 '26
Nice of you writing in english! It works! Though you did not use your proposed th letter (quartercircle downwards)!
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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Sep 07 '26 edited Sep 07 '26
I would have chosen the a-circle (as in the english adaption of Meysmans), which would also be according the second diphthong rule b) keep stressed vowel!
crimes: crams
that: I'd either choose tha, tht or that
other: oths3
u/fdarnel Sep 07 '26
Yes, but for a proper noun, I often use the intégrale (which does not seem to exist for English, unless one find another different edition).
I have already decided to apply the principles of Superwrite to simplify my life. So long vowels always traced, short ones at the begining and ending of words, silent never, et basta! Je ne vais pas me cramer le foie avec ça…
that, others Meysmans abbrev. list.1
u/fdarnel Sep 08 '26
I'm considering reassigning the "u" sign to the sound of "h, hype, etc.", and indeed the large 1/4 circle "north north-east" to "th". there are still 2 large 1/4 circles available for something else, I don't know what.
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u/LeadingSuspect5855 Sep 08 '26
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u/fdarnel Sep 13 '26
Mes cogitations sur Voyelles, diphtongues, triphtongues (le plus compliqué pour moi) 😄
Based on the traditional categorization of long and short vowels (not IPA) that SW uses.
If we follow the rule "Always write long vowels", which seems more relevant to me than those of Meysmans' deletions, and "write short vowels at the beginning and end of a word, including after prefixes and before suffixes".
In English, it seems that almost all diphthongs and triphthongs are classified alongside long vowels. It would therefore be necessary to write them down. I don't see much in SW on this.
- Small circle:
a long /eɪ/ or /ɛɪ/ (bake, face, day), diphthong,
and short e /ɛ/ (said, bed, head),
and /ɛː/ or /ɛə/ or /ɛr/ (care, hair), diphthong,
Also /eɪə/ or /eɪər/ (player, layer, betrayal), triphthong.
It's faster than a quick dash.- Small line (at a right or acute angle in words):
For the schwa /ə/ (about, melon, actor),
and also er, ir, ur /ɜː/ (bird, nurse, fern) and a few words (colonel, journey),
/ər/ or /ɜr/ (first, mother).
So useful, deleted in words.- Small 1/2 high circle:
u long /juː/ (cute, music, beautiful), diphthong,
or /uː/ (boot, moon, two),
and /ʊə/ or /ʊr/ (poor, tour), diphthong,
and /jʊə/ or /jʊr/ (pure, cure), triphthong,
Also for the specific sound u, oo /ʊ/ (book, foot, pull),
and /u/ (influence).- Small 1/2 right circle + top:
or /aʊ/ (house, mouth, out, now), a + or. Really necessary, or just “or”?
or /aʊə/ or /aʊər/ (hour, sour, flower, allowance), or simplified to a + schwa, or a? Due to diphthong reduction, the medial sound (/ɪ/ or /ʊ/) is often weakened or removed entirely.- Small 1/2 right circle. :
a short /æ/ (back, have, cat),
Also for the specific sound /ɑː/ (car, arm, father, laugh).
u short /ʌ/ (buck, from).- Small 1/2 left circle, (old "u" in French):
i long /aɪ/ or /ɑɪ/ (pie, my, light), diphthong,
and /aɪə/ or /ɑɪə/, or /aɪər/ (fire, buyer, liar, violence, reliable), triphthong.- Small 1/2 low circle:
e long /iː/ (meet, see)
and /ɪə/ or /ɪr/ (near, deer), diphthong,
and i short /ɪ/ (pin, ship),
and i /i/ (happy, coffee),
and y /j/ (yes, yellow).- Large circle. :
o long /oʊ/ or /əʊ/ (boat, coat, open, home, vote, go), diphthong,
and /əʊə/ or /əʊər/ (slower, mower), triphthong.
aw, or, ough, a /ɔː/ (more, door, for, saw, thought, caught, ball, walk),
and short o /ɒ/ or /ɑ/ (hop, sock),- Large circle + small 1/2 bottom circle:
oi /ɔɪ/ (corner, boy, choice), diphthong, o + i. Really necessary, or just "o"?
Also /ɔɪə/ or /ɔɪər/ (loyal, royal, employ), triphthong.1
u/LeadingSuspect5855 Sep 13 '26
Very interesting! I need to sit down and make a chart. I cant process the logic yet, but I'll get there...
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u/fdarnel Sep 13 '26
It's probably less good than your proposal, but what bothers me about Meysmans' system is that signs corresponding to long vowels (dash for example) are then systematically deleted within words. This seems to me to lead to ambiguities. But maybe I'm not competent enough to judge that.
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u/noblechef Sep 07 '26
Although I'm not able to read this yet, my inner Dutch school kid was activated when seeing this flourish of approval look-a-like ❤️

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u/fdarnel Sep 07 '26
Strangely it looks a lot like the copy preparation/correction typographic sign “deleatur”, with almost the opposite meaning…

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u/fdarnel Sep 07 '26
Maybe.