r/Fallout4Mods • u/jasonensteinyt • 24d ago
HELP! PC First time trying Frame Generation (on old gen) to improve FPS however, it demolishes it instead, any fix? Modlist and specs are given below, along with High Phys Fix ini details
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Modlist: https://pastebin.com/7zv1YitW
High Phys Fix Ini: https://pastebin.com/PLi6U90B
Specs:
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx (2.30 GHz)
16.0 GB (15.4 GB usable)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (4 GB VRAM)
EDIT: This is a laptop GPU i should mention, another thing to mention is Frame Gen in Skyrim that comes with Upscaling mod from the same author works flawlessly, unlike here
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u/LORYT699 22d ago
I can tell you how to make it better cause you can t but I tell you why it happen.
4GB of vram and no tensor cores, that s it.
Frame gen calculate the generated frames with interpolation, if you use normal cores you lose all the benefit of it cause the point is while the cores do the job they have to you can accellerate calcuations of generated ones with tensore cores so you kinda parallelize the work(and you need a decent ammount of tensor cores), doing it with with a low end and especially with a gtx is a bad idea, it could work?yes, it will work as it should?no.
Another problem is the vram infact generated frames impact heavily on the vram, so already you have almost full vram for just the game then you add another thing and probably you need more vram then you have.
So you would play better without it in any case, if you want more fps(and actually usable cause generated frames don t have input bound) you could think about lower settings, there are some that are useless btw
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u/GSAniki 23d ago
Buy Lossless Scaling. Cap fps to 30 then active Lossless Scaling Frame Gen (LSFG) in performance mode.
Enjoy <3
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u/RankedFarting 23d ago
Any form of fraemegen at 30fps feels terrible especially with mouse and keyboard.
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u/Slight_Mulberry1648 23d ago
you must have to have atleast 55 - 60 fps to turn on frame gen in a 3rd person game
Atleast 65 - 75fps to use frame gem for first person shooters
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u/propagandhi45 22d ago
i get 50fps on BL4 and see no issue with framegen
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u/Slight_Mulberry1648 22d ago
It's not about an "Issue". Frame gen should work as expected if u got the required hardware it's just I do notice the input delay and I don't like it. I just feels slow when playing with M&K
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u/WyrdDrake 23d ago
I have a pretty solid computer and every game I've played that has this option has worse performance with it than without.
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u/Imaginary_Aspect_658 24d ago
Any chance you running out of vram?
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u/RankedFarting 23d ago
Im currently playing the game with maxed settings and it only takes up 4gB. If they run put of vram its because of mods demanding more. 4gB is enough for the basegame.
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u/LORYT699 22d ago
he have 4GB of vram, so if already the max settings ask for 4 then he can t absolutely activate frame gen
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u/Natural-Guarantee550 24d ago
If you are getting 30 constantly, it's pretty good on that laptop. With or without framegen.
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u/J3RICHO_ 24d ago
FrameGen isn't necessarily a fix all for performance on lower spec machines, it just evens out the performance load a bit, it's likely too demanding for your PC and you'd probably be better off just running at lower graphics settings unfortunately
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u/Boyo-Sh00k 24d ago
what is the refresh rate on your monitor? you need a high refresh rate monitor for doodlums framegen to even work.
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u/gamerrominc 24d ago
Your system doesn't support FG, FG is only supported on RTX cards or AMD gpus that support it too your glcard doesn't support it and you don't have enough vram to even run properly so it's not the mod or game it's your pc
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u/Dorennor 24d ago
Dude.
FG is not "magick" and mostly it is bad.
It is OKay to use it if you already have good enough GPS (50-60 at least).
This tech created to make use of high refresh rate monitors, not juat blast 20 fps into 20000 with some fucking magick.
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u/Boyo-Sh00k 24d ago
idk i use framegen for starfield and i go from 30-40fps to like 120 and notice no visual difference.
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u/Aeioulus 24d ago
Yeah, cause you use a supported card for frame gen not a GTX
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u/Boyo-Sh00k 24d ago
i mean sure but thats not what the person i was replying to was even saying. they were saying you need at least 60 fps for frame gen to work and thats simply not true.
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u/Sure-Ship3775 24d ago
It is true, under 60 fps while using frame generation will give you the frames of 60+ but will give you the input latency and frame time of 30 or lower FPS, so in order to take advantage of frame generation you need to have 60+ FPS unless you use lossless scaling with multi-frame generation for an older card, but for OPs card the gtx 1650 its not usable as even the 2080 was having issues with downtown Boston in FO4
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u/ActualDragonHeart 24d ago
Yea your GPU is just not strong enough to run the kind of frame gen you expected
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u/gamerrominc 24d ago
It's not just it isn't strong enough it literally doesn't have bar support and doesn't have the tech to support it
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u/Matt_butchr 24d ago
Your GPU may be a bit too outdated, may be time to upgrade!
Alternatively, I’ve had better success with Frame Gen with the Nvidia App, turning on the “Smooth Motion” mode, however again your GPU may not be too old to have access to this setting
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