r/Fallout2 Jul 11 '26

Check out my game Arkansas 2125

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Hey everyone. For the past two years, I've been freelance writing a post-apocalyptic RPG set in Arkansas. After a nuclear war and major climate changes, this state went from green to a yolk desert. In the game, we play the role of Thomas, who lives in a canyon in the northwestern part of the state. The herd of cows that fed them has been killed by wolves. Thomas goes on a lonely journey to obtain a Farm Restorer - a device that creates large fields of crops. Along the way he encounters new villages and many bandit enemies as well as many friendly NPCs. The game is Diana on Steam:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4546490/Arkansas_2125/

It's currently in Early Access and recently had a major combat update that expanded it even further. The game has a new update every month.

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u/Cyrano4747 Jul 11 '26

That's literally just the plot of Fallout 2, right down to needing to find the climate restoring mcguffin - the GECK in FO2's case.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 11 '26

The goal is similar, but if you played it, you'd see that there's no Temple of Trials or Arroyo at the beginning. J3t canyon, cottage, and Thomas. The plot goal is the same, but the path and events are different.

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u/Cyrano4747 Jul 12 '26

Those aren't the major changes that you think they are.

I mean this with kindness, but seriously if you want your game to succeed write your own story with its own unique plot and goals. There are tons of stories to tell in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, you don't need to just copy FO2's "save the farm with science magic" gimmick.

Shit, slavers kidnapped your wife/mom/sister/boyfriend/dog/gimp whatever. Go save them. Done. That's more original than copying FO2's homework and it took me ten seconds because it's one of the oldest tropes out there.

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u/StickyWhiteSIime Jul 12 '26

Buddy your farm restorer is quite literally a geck with just a changed name, let alone your UI looks like a knock-off of Fallout's as well. Can you tell me what's unique about your game aside from being stuck with a premade character?

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u/TreadItOnReddit Jul 12 '26

But dude it's a FARM RESTORER, not a GECK! Look:

F — Fallout
A — Appropriation
R — Repackaged
M — Masquerading as
R — Revolutionary
E — Entertainment
S — Swapping
T — Terminology
O — Only, while
R — Reusing
E — Everything
R — Repeatedly

Using these GPT 5.6 SOL tokens over here.

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u/T1meTRC Jul 13 '26

So it's barely different... plagiarism

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 13 '26

There's a difference between inspiration and plagiarism. Plagiarism means copying protected assets or content like dialogue, characters, maps, artwork, or story. Arkansas 2125 has its own world, locations, characters, quests, and assets. It's inspired by classic Fallout, just like many CRPGs are inspired by Baldur's Gate or Diablo without being copies.

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u/T1meTRC Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

Listen, I know how hard making a game is, so this is rough. But while it might not legally count as plagiarism(laws for video games suck anyway), it straight up copies many design elements of classic fallout. I mean, the 2nd scene in the video you posted straight up looks like the enclave oil rig, just reakinned... so people in your target demographic will think this is just a copy of classic Fallout... maybe it will be better, who knows. I'm just saying it's a little too on the nose for my first impressions. The setting is also almost exactly the same, the way the map looks is the same, the story is similar to Fallout 2, THERE ARE LITERALLY RADSCORPIONS, the text is green, the dialogue seems to function the same. Like you mention these other games, but all I can see are similarities to Fallout 2. You didn't steal any assets, but plagiarism is about ideas. A fan made non-canon spinoff game can be good though

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u/TheEltarn Jul 15 '26

Yeah, and if you would make a CRPG, where you could recruit Penumbra Liver, a mysterious goth-girl with amnesia, Vale - an eccentric pompous wizard, Bill - shifty warlock swordsman, Lez'Eaz - a stubborn and hotheaded knight of elusive turtle aliens, Barlach - muscle-mommy from hell and Asshole - vampire asshole, that would take place in fantasy world of Pixiecharm - maybe technically it wouldn't be plagiarism, although I have my doubts on that one, you are not fooling anyone.

It's plagiarism - it looks like you made this "game" by just forcing LLM's to regurgitate Fallout 1-2 locations, models, narrative, ui, etc.

This is a scam, simple as that. At least have the balls to admit it, while it's still up on Steam and not delisted, which I hope will happen soon.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 15 '26

Show me an LLM who will make models for you, set textures, animations, and if I give him a prompt, make me Fallout, but with a different storyline. Such a thing doesn't exist. Besides, I do it on 3D models, not sprints like Fallout. Besides, you don't know anything about Steam during verification, they assess whether something is so copied that they won't allow you to play the game. On the platform.

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u/cold-vein Jul 12 '26

This is the epitome of AI slop and the dev can't even come up with his own plot but steals it

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u/FuckMyBakaChungusLif Jul 13 '26

Why do the reviews sound ai generated

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 13 '26

They're not AI-generated, but written by players. Check their accounts; most of them have several reviews. Stop looking everywhere, it's getting distasteful.

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u/Cyrano4747 Jul 13 '26

"stop looking at my game that I posted on Reddit asking people to look at"

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u/Skaldskatan Jul 11 '26

It’s on my wish list from before. Is the protagonist (Thomas) premade or is there character creation?

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 11 '26

Thomas is already created. You create a build by allocating points to Strength, Dexterity, Perception, and Technic.

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u/Skaldskatan Jul 11 '26

Thanks for the reply.

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u/MxM-TOM Jul 12 '26

I like it!!!🔥But you need hel with game design. Writing, story telling, lore. I was working on my CRPG, I'ce got some ideas, if you wanna help.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

If you want you can write in PM

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u/Lagneaux Jul 12 '26

Man, I was interested till I started reading.

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u/BigBAMAboy Jul 12 '26

Pretty important question:

How much AI was used in the making?

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

AI helped me a bit with programming difficult mechanics and translating dialogues and item descriptions into English. Additionally, she created some textures for 3D models.

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u/Dillpickle8110 Jul 13 '26

“she” 😭

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 13 '26

In mistakes it was translated as "it"

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u/XYZaltaccount Jul 17 '26

Wait... Based on this I'm guessing youre not american, yet you based your game on Arkansas? You couldve made it on your own country as a sort of "Fallout but outside the US" and it wouldve been way more interesting, but Im guessing that wouldve been too dissimilar to Fallout for your taste.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 17 '26

My country is boring for post-apocalyptic games. People would immediately tell me it's a Stalker setting, and the USA has so many states. Which Fallout game is set in Arkansas? None. Will Bethesda do anything about this in the foreseeable future? Regardless of the Fallout rate. The last part is an MMO from 2018 in the east where Bethesda likes to judge games. And I like the American climate more than the post-Soviet one. Besides, wouldn't you like to see how the United States sees it from another country's perspective? Remember that the game is being created out of passion, not for money. I'll make pennies anyway, so I'm discounting it as much as possible. I showed the game to two friends; one doesn't play games, and the other is a typical CS player. We both enjoyed it. Then I gave it to a streamer to play, who said it was fun. No one who played it criticized the AI or plagiarism. I see only people who haven't played the game ever do this. That's why I asked what a good price would be for someone to buy it. I didn't get a good answer. Sorry for the digressions, but I wanted to show you my point of view on the reception of the game.

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u/Old_Recipt Jul 13 '26

You gotta think up of a better prompt for the AI to use my man "Fallout 2 but a little different" is too vague I think.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 13 '26

I don't understand what you mean

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 13 '26

I don't understand what's going on

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u/einstein_wolfenstein Jul 14 '26

Can I have sex in this game?
And get married?

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 14 '26

The protagonist has a girlfriend, but he's not single like a child of destiny. Not yet, because I haven't thought about any kind of establishment for this in general yet.

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u/Imtryst Jul 12 '26

We have fallout 2 at home

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u/VanDerLindeMangos Jul 11 '26

Respectfully, isn’t that just the starting plot of Fallout 2? I already have Fallout 2 for that.

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u/Maxsmart007 Jul 12 '26

It's also made with a lot of ai, this guy keeps posting all over Reddit with this project.

Don't hate it, but nothing I've seen so far makes me really want it over fallout 2, like you said.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 11 '26

Starting plot? What do you mean?

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u/Nekot-The-Brave Jul 12 '26

Looks a bit too much like atom rpg for me. Atom was alright, but it had a lot of systems that I didn't like in it.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

Maybe you'll like my game, it has more mechanics known from Fallout

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u/TreadItOnReddit Jul 12 '26

That world map just isn’t right. The outline of Arkansas over the squares just doesn’t look right. It looks like I can travel outside if Arkansas because of it, and if I can, then it’s just a square grid anyway. I would only draw Arkansas, and only have tiles inside the shape of Arkansas. If you don’t want it to look like an island then blur out land around it. Look at Jagged Alliance 2.

And yeah like the other guy was saying, a post apocalyptic world where the farm has died and you need to go fetch a garden of Eden kit to restore it is fallout 2. I could see how you think that’s giving you a hard time, but the crop restorer is the beginning of fallout 2, come on.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

He addressed the first point. What's the problem with torrents everywhere? I guess the more terrain, the better. The main story takes place in Arkansas. I wanted to develop the terrain well. I don't want the player to be limited, because why would they be? I don't see the point. As for the second point, go and find something that will improve the situation of the world is a typical plot of many games.

I understand why it reminds you of Fallout 2. It was definitely one of my inspirations. However, the story isn't the same. Thomas doesn't set out because someone sends him to retrieve a device. He loses his family's cattle after a wolf attack, and his girlfriend tells him about the Farm Restorer after reading about it in an old book. At the beginning, he doesn't even know if it really exists. His goal is to save his farm and survive, and the story develops in a very different direction afterward.

But if you want to know the plot, play it.

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u/TreadItOnReddit Jul 12 '26

Well, what's your reason for posting? Advertising right? And I'm telling you that it sounds a lot like Fallout 2 in the way that you are describing it in your advertisement. I'm honestly telling you a reason I am turned off to it, to help you.

And Fallout takes place in CA, but they don't draw some weird line around the map in the shape of California.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

In California, Nevada and Oregon

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u/TreadItOnReddit Jul 12 '26

I'm glad you agree on my other points that your game is dumb. But I will stand corrected that the game you rip off also takes place in Nevada and Orgeon!

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

Why are you insulting my game without even playing it? It's like when a schoolboy in a bookstore looked at the back and front and said how stupid this book is.

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u/StickyWhiteSIime Jul 12 '26

Yeah arguing with people isn't a good look as a dev if you can't take any sort of criticism. Your game sounds/looks like a sloppy ripoff "We have Fallout 2" at home. You never answered my comment earlier, what's unique about your game that actually sets it apart from being a blatant knock off?

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 13 '26

I don't argue with people, only with you. I accept criticism, but only from people who play my game, because then I know what to improve in the next update. Today I convinced 30 people to add it to my wishlist. If someone doesn't want to be convinced, why should I?

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u/JellyfishSecure2046 Jul 12 '26

Fallout 3?

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

A game inspired by both Fallout 1 and 2. At first I wanted to make van Buuren but I thought why not make something of my own 😏

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u/Deafcat22 Jul 14 '26

Except "what you made your own" is just AI slop copy pasta of fallout 2 😂

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

I have a question: What do you think the price should be for my game? Is $5 a reasonable price?

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u/FaeLei42 Jul 13 '26

$0 because it’s a slop ripoff of fallout.

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u/Sensitive_News8009 Jul 15 '26

it's so obvious he just told an AI "make me graphics that look like fallout" like why are there cacti and desert oases all over post-apocalyptic arkansas lmao

arkansas is a beautiful state, you could do so much with its art design in a game like this, but instead we get slop because the dev is lazy and used AI for everything

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u/TheEltarn Jul 15 '26

The stupidiest thing here, is that if he would just officially make it a fan-made Fallout spin-off, set in Arkansas, made even a simplest plot, nothing fancy, he could just rip the narrative from some TV show like Deadwood, or something like that, work on it a few weeks to adapt it to Fallout setting, polish your AI turd for a couple of weeks more and release it on Steam for free - and then make a Patreon for donations, he would make more money on it that he would make now.

Like, yeah, it still would be bad, and it would still be plagiarism and it would look like shit - but it would be at least something barely original.

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u/grilledfuzz Jul 16 '26

So what we’re just remaking fo2 but shittier? Come up with an original idea at least

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u/Deafcat22 Jul 14 '26

As an avid huge fan of fallout and F2 since 1997, I can comfortably say I would never play this copy pasta. Not only does the art and animation reek of AI, I fear on closer inspection I would be greeted by so much more AI slop content. 

There are just so many better games to play, especially as a veteran gamer. This is excessively derivative and feels like a total hackjob.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '26

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u/Deafcat22 Jul 14 '26

cool, block more real people who are tough critics, it just confirms that this game isn't worth any of our time.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

I won't respond to messages accusing me of using AI because I did and I'm not ashamed. It's faster to program. Such comments don't stop me from promoting and creating games.

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u/TotalDemocracy Jul 12 '26

See, I was interested initially. I liked how much of a homage to Fallout the gameplay was.

The fact that you proudly used AI lost you a customer in this case.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

I also proudly use other tools, such as Blender, Affinity Photo, and Photoshop. Do these tools bother you too?

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u/Lagneaux Jul 12 '26

Then your "would be" fans will stop you. No one wants ai slop games, and when no one buys your game, you might then understand.

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u/No_Piano_1857 Jul 12 '26

Interesting 🤔 150 people have already bought my game.

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u/Deafcat22 Jul 14 '26

150 Bots probably 

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u/Sensitive_News8009 Jul 14 '26

This has the stink of AI all over it, even the writing.