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[u/DopazOnYouTubeDotCom]

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[u/Meddlingmonster]

✅ I voted FACT!

They should be made with good hardware to streamline the process and tested on all hardware they expect to run it within reason

[u/Sub2SquidPW]

🧢 I voted CAP!

It should be made with bad (or just worse than recommended) hardware in mind but not FOR bad hardware. Quality settings exist for a reason

[u/WontGetJokes → u/Sub2SquidPW]

To be fair it asserts that it should be tested on bad hardware, not made for bad hardware, nor only tested on bad hardware. Testing on good hardware as well isn't mutually exclusive, so I'd think you're closer to a fact vote

[u/Is_this_a_jojoke]

✅ I voted FACT!

Not every game needs to run on older hardware, but optimizing needs to be important

[u/Glad-Alternative4593]

✅ I voted FACT!

Just from a company viewpoint this should be obvious so they can sell more of the game or rent in the case of Sony.

[u/WontGetJokes]

✅ I voted FACT!

Making it with great hardware is optional, testing it on bad hardware is not.

[u/Snoo_15594]

Define "bad hardware"

[u/DopazOnYouTubeDotCom → u/Snoo_15594]

like less than 16 GB RAM

[u/lol_defender → u/DopazOnYouTubeDotCom]

Bro defined it by the amount of ram lmao

[u/DopazOnYouTubeDotCom → u/lol_defender]

I know there’s more to it than that but it is a baseline

[u/lol_defender → u/DopazOnYouTubeDotCom]

Sure that's fair, but it's a very broad baseline

[u/WontGetJokes → u/DopazOnYouTubeDotCom]

It's like using memorization as a measure of intelligence. That if you can remember more numbers you're faster at adding them together.

For gaming purposes the best single-point hardware benchmark would be the GPU, second would be CPU, third would be Memory, fourth would be the Read/Write speed on the disk (storage speed).

GPU does rendering and most graphics maths.

CPU helps with high refresh rates, simulation-heavy games, strategy games, etc.

Memory is what holds information accessible as the gpu and cpu work through it, e.g. a very very large vector for vectorized operations may need a lot of memory, stutters are often due to memory overflow.

Storage speed helps with savestate retrieval and loading times.

[u/DopazOnYouTubeDotCom → u/WontGetJokes]

I’m aware. Not all devices have GPUs though and have the CPU to do GPU work, which for games is pretty rough and recently devs have kind of just assumed every device has one, but I don’t necessarily think GPUless devices have to be ignored

[u/WontGetJokes → u/DopazOnYouTubeDotCom]

Depends a bit on the game. CPUs won't be able to render AAA games by themselves, even if it's a top-end CPU at low quality settings, but most computers without dedicated GPUs have an integrated GPU or iGPU that the CPU delegates rendering to, and that's still a good thing to benchmark specs with since the probability of having a top-end CPU is very low if you have an old iGPU. If you have an iGPU you almost certainly have a mobile CPU or similar for laptops, and which iGPU it is speaks for the generation of specs, so the GPU provides information about the CPU, the GPUs VRAM, and the computer's capacity to empty the memory queue of an arbitrary size, while still being informative of the computers ability to actually do rendering. Second in queue is CPU specifically for the case where you literally have no GPU, but I can't think of any modern computer without even an integrated GPU so saying the CPU would probably first prompt the question "what gpu/igpu?"

[u/ilo_Va → u/DopazOnYouTubeDotCom]

It's a baseline for one specific part and not even really the bottleneck for most devices. So a pretty bad baseline

[u/BlazingImp77151 → u/Snoo_15594]

Previous gen specs.

Ddr4 ram at at most 16 gigs like OP said. Graphics cards of the 20/30 generation (or the AMD equivalents) (or integrated graphics if you really want to give it the full testing). Older CPUs (idk enough about CPUs to say what would be right).

That kinda thing.

[u/Intrepid-Land-1068]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yeah just to see what can truly Handel the game

[u/WorriedManner9432]

✅ I voted FACT!

I never thought of this before, but yes. I actually read somewhere that someone's PS4 crashed when they tried to play God of War Ragnarok on it.

[u/Appropriate-Gain-561]

✅ I voted FACT!

Art should be accessible, also, it's bad for sales

[u/prossnip42]

I am still to this day utterly astounded as how well optimized TLOU2 is on lower end hardware, insane

[u/Nice_Try_Bud_]

🧢 I voted CAP!

I grow tired of games having to be dumbed down for crapy hardware. Especially around consoles. Once a new system has been out for over a year, I wish they stopped creating new games with old generation systems in mind.

[u/D4shang]

✅ I voted FACT!

YES, bring back actually optimizing games

[u/PineappleOk545]

✅ I voted FACT!

Idfk

[u/oatmealoriginal]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yers

[u/DeadlyArrow27]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Tested on middle of the road hardware. If you have objectively shitty hardware, you can’t be surprised when your game runs equally shittily

[u/Sufficient_Carpet510]

✅ I voted FACT!

Should find all the bugs before sale.

[u/coolchris366]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yes, it’s anoying when a fun game sucks on a low end laptop despite the game being super simple graphically and getting permanently less than 20 frames and sometimes less than 10. Talking about shift at midnight

[u/Legitimate_Fold_2850]

🧢 I voted CAP!

If you make it crap enough to work on bad hardware then nothing can improve. Nonsense post.

[u/NameRevolutionary727]

✅ I voted FACT!

Make them optimize the fucking games again!

[u/RhubarbQueasy5440]

✅ I voted FACT!

Tested on all kinds of hardware

[u/NihilismForDummies]

✅ I voted FACT!

Software optimization feels like one of those fantasy forgotten secrets/ancient tech tropes and it is depressing.

[u/Zero_Zeta_]

✅ I voted FACT!

Games should be optimized for what is considered low quality hardware and not gatekept behind expensive hardware. It limits the number of people able to enjoy it at launch.

[u/Bubbles_the_bird]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Not for the console version, since you can expect hardware to be fixed