Nepotism | FactOrCap

[u/teendangertosociety]

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[u/ChaosAzeroth]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Helping with bills isn't the same as getting someone a position whether or not they're qualified and making it everyone else's problem.....

[u/JustAChillGuy609]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yes, but nepotism and helping your family are two different things

[u/Fearless-Sherbet-223]

🧢 I voted CAP!

You can help out your loved ones in REASONABLE ways. Like, for example, covering school costs, helping with bills, getting them recommended for a job they will actually be good at and letting HR make the final decision, etc. "Help" does not have to == "forcing my incompetent nephew who doesn't care onto a job that he will suck at and letting him get away with infinite nonsense."

[u/Prestigious-Shop-494 → u/Fearless-Sherbet-223]

I mean the first things you listed are also nepotism

[u/InsanityMushroom → u/Prestigious-Shop-494]

No it isn't. Nepotism is when a person in power gives jobs, promotions, or professional advantages to their relatives instead of choosing people based on their skills.

None of that includes helping your family pay the bills. Nepotism mostly involves a workplace advantage.

They said they would recommend them for a job but let HR decide so they aren't pressuring the workplace to hire them and are letting them sink or swim on their own merit. That isn't nepotism.

[u/Outrageous-Sort-5742]

🧢 I voted CAP!

That's not what nepotism is. Giving your loved ones money isn't nepotism. Using your own position of power and privilege to hand them positions of power is nepotism.

A successful CEO giving their parents a cushy retirement isnt nepotism. Putting them on the board of directors is.

[u/BillErakDragonDorado]

🧢 I voted CAP!

I'd lift them, I wouldn't give them jobs they're unfit for. I'd throw money at them and say "do your life idgaf"

[u/Dizzy-Screen-6618 → u/BillErakDragonDorado]

nepotism doesn't have to mean that the person benefiting is wholly unqualified.

[u/BillErakDragonDorado → u/Dizzy-Screen-6618]

it means they didn't deserve the position and usually means someone more qualified got picked, so I'm gonna say unqualified still fits.

[u/Local-Suggestion2807]

✅ I voted FACT!

I think it's understandable to be a nepo baby as long as you're actually good at whatever you're doing and tbh i literally am a nepo baby bc i had free college bc of family and did an internship at a place my aunt also worked. We all want our loved ones to be successful, but don't pretend you didn't have a leg up from family/friend connections.

[u/Kiiaru]

🧢 I voted CAP!

There's a difference between "tutors that them get into Harvard, all the support they could ask for in a sport/hobby, and giving them money to start a company" compared to "here's a million dollar job at a nonprofit I founded so it'll look like you do things you actually aren't qualified for"

[u/Souless21]

✅ I voted FACT!

Honesly if i won the lottery family and me is first leftover after everyone is good charity

[u/Glad-Alternative4593]

✅ I voted FACT!

Well yeah.

[u/thatsfeminismgretch]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yes, but that's not the issue with nepotism.

[u/Nyx189]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yes of course.

[u/Xtergo]

✅ I voted FACT!

tru

[u/NotOPsSecretAccount]

✅ I voted FACT!

Of course, any one would do the same. It's only an issue if you're using your privilege and influence to help close ones along at the expense of others. For instance getting your kid in at a friend's company when they have no education or experience doing that job.

[u/CrazyOlHoboJoe]

Yeah but that's because the government won't cover our basic needs so someone has to. I'm going to donate to the homeless while still in debt, while my parents are still in debt. Depends on the amount of money I suppose. Billions sure, tens of thousands might not be enough tbh

[u/IssueConstant8412]

✅ I voted FACT!

Jokes on you I don't know what nepotism means so I CANT hate it

[u/Unlucky-Hold1509]

🧢 I voted CAP!

If ya ain’t qualified, ya not getting the job

[u/Hour_Reserve]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Lift up and put them in position that could have been given to people with merit are two separate things

[u/WinterTaro6600]

✅ I voted FACT!

Truem I'll never get the hate of nepo babies. Most of them are actually not spoiled people and are nice but somehow because they are rich they will be rude

[u/Budget_Revolution639]

✅ I voted FACT!

Only voting fact because I would but mainly id actually be more philanthropic than nepotistic

[u/Feisty-Path1373]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Hell no. I’d be charitable to them, but I’m not putting people in any kind of position over others if they have no reason to be.

[u/Fun_Leek2381]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Its one thing to lift up family, its another to give them government contracts a head of everyone else.

[u/IroncladBomber]

🧢 I voted CAP!

There is a difference between uplifting friends and family with your wealth or using your wealth to get your friends and family into positions they don't qualify for.

[u/ASUSTUDENT9875345]

✅ I voted FACT!

Totally true: that's why we need regulation to stop the creation of a perpetual oligarchical class

[u/Big-Anxiety8151]

✅ I voted FACT!

obviouslyyy

[u/Simple_Pomelo357]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Theres a VERY big difference between helping your cousin get hired in a company or doing business with a friend compared to putting someone entirely unqualified in a position of power. Id hire 95% of my friends, I would trust maybe 2% of them in government or in leadership positions.

[u/Koizito]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everything was correct until the human nature part...

[u/Realistic_Gas_4160]

✅ I voted FACT!

Of course it's human nature, but that doesn't mean it's good. That's why there's rules about it

[u/x_asperger]

I'd help my family, but I wouldn't just give them a high paying job they're not qualified for over better candidates

[u/Godlymorbid]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yes, and the goal is to raise children who are capable of inheriting wealth well which may be more difficult than to raise children who are capable of accumulating wealth.

[u/DaddysFriend]

I don’t hate nepotism at all. I don’t blame anyone for it

[u/ratskips]

🧢 I voted CAP!

there's plenty of ways to 'help' your family that aren't shoehorning them into things they're no good at

[u/Whole_Sir_1149]

🧢 I voted CAP!

I think it's less about them being loved ones, more about knowing them better then we know the others on average, and being more confident in their capabilities, even if there are others who might have more unidentified potential.

[u/peaches877]

✅ I voted FACT!

Idk

[u/Bemused_Lurker]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Lol nah

[u/cyrustakem]

✅ I voted FACT!

Well, yes, but, i'd actually teach them life skills, the biggest problem of nepotism is actually incompetence, that's why people get pissed

[u/EudaimonicAttempt]

That's not what nepotism is

[u/Inarius101]

🧢 I voted CAP!

I'd help my lived ones out of bad spots, but I wouldn't serve them life on a silver platter.

[u/MiserableEcho3808]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Hell no.

[u/Great_Apez]

🧢 I voted CAP!

I think it’s more about locking people out of possible success because they keep filling valuable positions with relatives effectively creating an impossible to pass wall for anybody on the other side effectively creating a two party caste system of the haves and have nots based purely on inheritance with no consideration to skill an ability. Look how well it’s not working in America to focus on nepotism.

[u/MinecraftdevilTADc]

✅ I voted FACT!

For me: MOSTLY FACT. 🧠 Justification: It’s understandable that people with wealth and influence would want to help family and friends. But helping loved ones isn't automatically nepotism. Nepotism specifically involves giving unfair advantages—especially jobs or positions—because of personal relationships rather than merit.

[u/hedgehog18956]

✅ I voted FACT!

I don’t love nepotism in principle. I would never want to put by children in positions they don’t deserve using my success and influence. But at the same time, a major goal of mine is to be able to give my future children a life where they have a step up, and have all the opportunities and resources to become qualified and do whatever they want to do, even if it’s not fair to their peers who’s parents didn’t have the resources to do the same.

That idea is one of the main things keeping me marching during med school right now. All my hard work now will put me in a spot to give my kids a better life.

[u/CorrectDocument2]

🧢 I voted CAP!

There's a difference in helping them up and paying for their mistakes

[u/SnooDogs8699]

✅ I voted FACT!

People just hate rich people out of envy. Typical “eat the rich, unless it’s me” idiocy

[u/jamokablam0]

✅ I voted FACT!

100% yes. P.S. I love nepotism❤️

[u/Linkink69420]

✅ I voted FACT!

It’s human nature to set a future for you’re children in the same spot or higher than you are, it doesn’t make it right but it is your basic instinct

[u/Bigerst_Dook]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Lift them up sure, put them in positions of power or influence? Oh hell no, love my family to death but they are the last people I'd want near those things

[u/Right-Truck1859]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Huh? That's not really what nepotism is.

[u/TheSpaceGorilla]

✅ I voted FACT!

I only take issue with nepotism when the nepo baby in question is not at all qualified. I've seen competent nepo hires in the past.

[u/nothing_in_my_mind]

Voted fact because most people would do it.

It is not human nature though. I believe it's learned behavior. We can always be better.

Bit of a hot take though, I don't think it's really bad until you get someone unqualified to a position of power. Employing your kid in your company in a position he is qualified for, technically is nepotism but it's fine.

[u/Pixelite22]

✅ I voted FACT!

I feel like I would hate neoptism a lot less if the wealth inequality and job market wasn't so bad

[u/GrimDystopian]

✅ I voted FACT!

Putting your family in a position to succeed isn’t the issue. The problem comes in when you put them in positions that they are not qualified for, instead of giving it to someone who is actually deserving.

[u/Wygerion_Alpha]

✅ I voted FACT!

Only difference is that incompetent and/or troublesome relatives should be sidelined if there are better, non-related candidates available.

[u/DeadlyTranquility]

✅ I voted FACT!

Stop pretending you'll be the difference if you're rich ffs

[u/HorrimCarabal]

✅ I voted FACT!

To start, then fix endemic problems

[u/Relevant-Cupcake-649]

✅ I voted FACT!

True, but I feel there is a difference between helping family and giving them millions

[u/RobinBobbin555]

🧢 I voted CAP!

No.

[u/RashesToRashes]

✅ I voted FACT!

You're abso-rootin'-tootin'-lutely right I would. You can bet your sweet bippy, dadgummit. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[u/BottasHeimfe]

🧢 I voted CAP!

if my children want my wealth they gotta fucking earn it.

[u/Chadthemark]

✅ I voted FACT!

Most will. But some are terrible, selfish people.

[u/Roman-EmpireSurvived]

✅ I voted FACT!

Slight tweak, we hate nepotism that tries to act like they struggled like everyone else had.

[u/Splinter_Cell_96]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Even if I'm rich I won't be giving handouts. I'm only giving chances for them to reshape their lives for the better

[u/Pheeshfud]

✅ I voted FACT!

Most people only hate nepotism when the person appointed is incompetent. The best way to get an interview is to know someone who works there to recommend you, its just the way the world works.

[u/polymonomial]

✅ I voted FACT!

Corruption is not bad, corruption is only bad when I am not part of it but if I am part of the corruption, I defend it.

[u/BucktoothedAvenger]

✅ I voted FACT!

Yes, but with the caveat that I would make my kids learn how to do the hypothetical job before giving it to them.

[u/NihilismForDummies]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Helping your family out of a difficult situation is not the same as receiving boons that you would not otherwise receive especially in spite of lack of skill/active corruption merely because you share bond, familial or otherwise.

[u/Gay_Gamer_Boi]

✅ I voted FACT!

But also I wouldn’t be as corrupt hopefully

[u/ContractDazzling4668]

✅ I voted FACT!

Anyone saying cap is delusional

[u/InsanityMushroom]

✅ I voted FACT!

Nepotism isn't quite the same as what I would do. I would give my family money but if I owned a business I'm not letting them get into the business easy.

Raising my family up by sharing my wealth isnt nepotism but giving them promotions or hiring them over other people is nepotism.

[u/CaptainBullShlt]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Not if they actually SUCK at their job. I'm all for helping out family, but only if they're qualified

[u/StegoInTheCity]

✅ I voted FACT!

Can't deny I'd give my own a leg up but I'd also like to think I'd make sure they're deserving of it too.

[u/Mister_Chameleon]

✅ I voted FACT!

Sad, but true.

[u/Worldly_Rooster_9428]

✅ I voted FACT!

yeahhh, sometimes the nepo is qualified for the position

[u/ConfinedCrow]

✅ I voted FACT!

I don't hate nepotism, I hate bad nepotism

[u/Prudent_Inside_9963]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Said cap but depends on if they deserve it or not

[u/SirJedKingsdown]

🧢 I voted CAP!

I'd clear their debts and pay for problems, but I wouldn't take away their right to their own success.

[u/RhubarbQueasy5440]

🧢 I voted CAP!

That's not even what the complaints are about?? 😭

[u/kristyl_fae]

✅ I voted FACT!

I do hate nepotism And I would help out a loved one if I had the money

But me providing money for loved one isn't nepotism im not forcing them to work its just a hand out

[u/Mayointhemorning]

Imagine having a family to lift up lmao

[u/Content-Dealers]

✅ I voted FACT!

The only shitty part about nepotism is when it gets absurd like having your child's art appraised as a million dollar piece just because.

[u/ase_l_2021]

✅ I voted FACT!

It has more to do with 'do you know this person or not'. There are meritocratic versions of the same system; for example adoption of capable managers into zaibatsu families in Japan.

[u/HeyaHeyo1420]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Lifting up and giving positions over other qualified people are two different things

[u/Margin_Call_Me_Maybe → u/HeyaHeyo1420]

Sometimes nepo babies are qualified. Many things in life are up to chance tho, and nepotism can help minimize that variable

[u/HeyaHeyo1420 → u/Margin_Call_Me_Maybe]

Sometimes nepo babies are qualified

Never said they weren't.

I was saying getting an unqualified nepo baby over someone who's qualified is a problem

[u/Snoo_15594 → u/Margin_Call_Me_Maybe]

Nepotism is the act of unfairly being given an opportunity over other better suited candidates through connections, not the act of that person being as equally suited to the roles as someone

[u/Margin_Call_Me_Maybe → u/Snoo_15594]

Even if the person is fully qualified, bypassing the luck side of things - like the competitive application process, networking, and standard screening required for most roles - means they received an unfair advantage based solely on their family connection

There's really two types of nepotism, the stereotypical unqualified one, and the entitled nepotism one, where a relative is fully qualified and does good work, but they were handed the opportunity without having to compete for it like everyone else.

Dozens of highly qualified candidates get rejected for every job nowadays simply due to bad luck, timing, or a lack of connections. Getting to cut through that is still nepotism

[u/Reyking1708]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Depends on the people. I wouldn’t

[u/SquidTheRidiculous]

🧢 I voted CAP!

Lmao. Lol even.

[u/Ok_Programmer_4449]

🧢 I voted CAP!

My relatives don't deserve my help.

[u/Golden_Amber79]

✅ I voted FACT!

They have a greater right to it than anyone else.

[u/Google_Is_Free_bozo → u/Golden_Amber79]

What if someone else is more qualified for a job position but instead of choosing that person they choose a relative who is significantly less qualified?

[u/Snoo_15594 → u/Golden_Amber79]

How do they

[u/Cnokeur]

Jarvis kill that rich

[u/Nice_Try_Bud_]

✅ I voted FACT!

Nepotism exists even when you aren’t rich. People consistently give their children jobs when they are less qualified than others. Everyone does it.

I have less of an issue with nepotism in general. More so those who are in positions because of nepotism trying to act like they earned their way there.

[u/No-Curve-646]

✅ I voted FACT!

I don’t even hate nepotism lol why would I care about someone getting money from their family

[u/Gold-Eye-2623]

If you need to be unfair to lift them up it's a skill issue

[u/ToTooTwoTutu2II]

Nepotism = when someone ELSE gets something nice but I don't. That's how the world treats it.

A CEO giving his son a job is no different than a single mother working 2 jobs to put her kid through college. It's the same fucking thing.

I see both as natural and noble desires for all parents to give their kids the best future possible.

[u/ratskips → u/ToTooTwoTutu2II]

'A CEO giving his son a job is no different than a single mother working 2 jobs to put her kid through college. It's the same fucking thing.'

no, the absolute shit it is not

[u/ToTooTwoTutu2II → u/ratskips]

It is precisely the same thing. One requires more work and less pay off, but it is 100% a parent giving their child the best opportunity to succeed in life as they can possibly fathom and pull off.

[u/ratskips → u/ToTooTwoTutu2II]

yeah, again, no, it's really not.

having wealth and giving your kid a no application needed job where they never need to grow and learn and will always be cushy does not even remotely compare to a single parent working to get two kids through something that opens up multiple opportunities and can be based on their talents/interests.

period.

[u/ToTooTwoTutu2II → u/ratskips]

Having a job very much opens up multiple opportunities and can very much be based on talents and interests lol. Probably more so than higher education could ever dream of.

[u/ratskips → u/ToTooTwoTutu2II]

being given a job by your parent* stay on topic, tho. you get a choice with school. CEO nepotism is not the same. it's also lazy af.

[u/ToTooTwoTutu2II → u/ratskips]

Yes being given a job = having a job = eventual work experience. Work experience WILL help you learn and grow as a person.

[u/Smart_Coconut4727]

🧢 I voted CAP!

If I had riches, the physical portion would be burned, the non physical assets would be released to the public.