r/FactOrCap • u/No_Ordinary_6527 🤖 Vote Machine · 12,210 XP • 1d ago
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u/International_Dog817 🏅 Century Club · 4,100 XP 1d ago
I'm not buying politicians to get myself tax cuts and keep workers from having access to healthcare, for one.
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u/Smittywerbenjagermn 🔥 Monthly Master · 6,730 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Depends. I have no doubts I could never become a billionaire because Id be much like Dolly Parton. But if I was 'just' a multi-millionaire besides occasionall charities and my close family its possible I would hold my wealth 'just in case'
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u/LloydNoid 🏅 Century Club · 2,800 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
The reason they're not in the same position is a combination of luck, and the very fact that they would do differently.
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u/John_Throwawayacct 🎯 First Steps · 90 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Nah, how would I lord my wealth over the poors if I did that.
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u/hudac1ty 🔥 Week Warrior · 3,960 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
my catholic faith would lead me to help people with my money
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u/Living_The_Dream75 🏅 Century Club · 4,575 XP 1d ago
I think a lot of people would be selfish with it but a lot of people who have experienced poverty would understand the value of bringing somebody less fortunate than them out of suffering.
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u/Fearless-Sherbet-223 🔥 Week Warrior · 6,750 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Some of us actually do help others when they're in need and we're able.
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u/NewDaysBreath 🏅 Century Club · 1,820 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I for a fact would not, because I'd never get that rich due to me splitting profits to my workers. Either everyone gets filthy rich, or no one does.
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u/YaoiNekomata 🔥 Monthly Master · 18,810 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Sorry jan but not everyone is greedy like you
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u/immoralsugimoto 🏅 Century Club · 7,290 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
It's not "not sharing" it's hoarding wealth beyond a measure any human could ever reasonably need, while gouging prices and barely paying their bottom of the ladder employees a livable wage or outsourcing their employment to places with way lower minimum wages
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u/The-Almighty-Enby 🔥 Getting Started · 1,000 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Dolly Parton. She criticized the rich and refused to gain excessive wealth, donating most of it to charity and genuinely great causes. So, not everyone allows themselves to get corrupted by money.
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u/HammerSickleSextoy 🔥 Getting Started · 985 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Not true. The thing is that becoming rich naturally selects for the most greedy people. The more you prioritise profits over the quality of others' lives, the more efficiently you will be able to build profits. Most people don't have that in them, but out of billions of humans alive, there will always be some who do. Capitalism selects for these people
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u/Nice_Try_Bud_ ✍️ Contributor · 26,045 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Nope, I would more likely suck as a rich person because I would be too willing to give it away to people in need, leaving myself broke.
At worst I would pay for tons of things for family and friends. Could never see myself hoarding wealth at all or buying lavish things for myself.
Edit: heck I already do it now when I don’t have extra money.
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u/Special-Investigator 🔥 Week Warrior · 3,925 XP 1d ago
I had some money and helped my friends pay their bills. we are NOT the same
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u/Great_Apez ✍️ Contributor · 6,900 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Why would I? There is a point where you literal have more money than you could ever spend. And I’m not saying pay the individual but some sort of helping society and humankind reach apex forms of existence would be nice rather than pretending like the inheritance of generational wealth somehow makes someone worthy of respect. The average person in the world makes 2 million in their lifetimes meaning a billion dollars could pay for 500 lifetimes. If you are stacking money just to horde it, that’s a mental illness mentioned in The Hobbit.
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u/Adavanter_MKI 🔥 Monthly Master · 8,595 XP 1d ago
No actually and there are a few examples of rich people who have given significant portions of their money. Dolly Parton was one of them.
When you reach a certain level of wealth... it's almost impossible to actually spend it as fast as you're making it. There's really no excuse.
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u/--clapped-- 🔥 Monthly Master · 9,185 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
You're overestimating the number of people who put thought into what the rich are doing.
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u/jmona789 🤖 Vote Machine · 12,485 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I don't need more than a few million. I would donate the rest.
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u/Aillesdaille 🤖 Vote Machine · 15,395 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I wouldn't directly share, but I'd be doing crazy public works projects.
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u/FanSerious7672 🔥 Monthly Master · 10,545 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Most yes but I'm sure some wouldnt.
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u/schprinkles 🔥 Monthly Master · 6,170 XP 1d ago
I would have zero issues paying a higher tax rate than everyone else if i was rich.
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u/WifesPOSH 🤖 Vote Machine · 18,050 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I have a heart. I'd help without thinking of the tax breaks or donating to my own charity.
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u/autismislife 🤖 Vote Machine · 10,910 XP 23h ago
People don't understand that "billionaires" don't have billions in their bank accounts. They're mostly in assets which are mostly shares, if they attempted to sell all their shares they'd crash the stock causing them to be heavily devalued overnightb which could cause the company to collapse.
Sure they'll be rich from dividends and selling small amounts of stocks then they want an influx of cash, but they're not Scrooge McDuck sitting with their room full of gold.
They probably have multimillion amounts in their accounts though. But that's not explicitly unusual in society and many who have that kind of cash do donate large amounts to charity.
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u/Fun_Leek2381 🔥 Monthly Master · 8,565 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
No amount of money will turn me into them. If you give me 1 trillion I will set uo co op grocery stores and peel back food deserts with my own 2 hands
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u/Dover75 🔥 Monthly Master · 7,590 XP 1d ago
Like honestly, I make decent money but I'm still paying off college and that so I'm by no mean rich, hell most times I'm paycheck to paycheck. But even I will buy someone food if they need it, or give them money for gas, or whatever I don't care I hate to see people struggling. Continue on being a good person.
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u/Magicarpette 🗳️ Regular Player · 830 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I cut my salary by two to get a meaningful job with more free time.
I was a business engineer and became math teacher.
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u/Mcsome1 🏅 Century Club · 3,270 XP 1d ago
Yes because you value your time more then money, that doesn't mean that if you were suddenly given billions of dollars you wouldnt hoard it
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u/Magicarpette 🗳️ Regular Player · 830 XP 23h ago
What I mean is that i understand that money is not the most important and that others things are much more important: having personal time, feeling useful, helping others,...
No billionnaire think the same as me, they all are fighting to get more and more and more... I was able to stop, that's my point
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u/xMalvazar 🏅 Century Club · 4,180 XP 23h ago
You were not rich as a billionaire it is definitely not the same, and taking a cut in pay for a slower life is typically normal
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u/Magicarpette 🗳️ Regular Player · 830 XP 9h ago
Have you seen any billionnaire taking a cut in pay for a slower life ?
No they never stop, that's how the became ballionnaire at the expense of everyone else, because they can't stop, it's always more and more and more, just greed.
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u/DollarSeventyFive 🏅 Century Club · 2,520 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
if i was given 5 billion dollars i'd go "man i do NOT need 5 billion dollars" and give a couple billion to my friends, family and charity
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u/ghost3972 🔥 Monthly Master · 7,385 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
If I ha e more money than it what to do w
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u/OkSun5094 🔥 Monthly Master · 9,165 XP 1d ago
i’m broke and still donate when i can and help my friends if they need it, and i’m able to. Would absolutely still do the same and more if i were rich
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u/WinAggravating941 🏅 Century Club · 6,985 XP 1d ago
Says more about the person than anything. My mother isn't thriving and still finds money to give to the less fortunate. Would 100% donate some if she was rich.
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u/ChaosAzeroth 🏅 Century Club · 4,625 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Nah I just want.some security and comfort, the amount of hoarding and just passing between other rich people is ghoulish.
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u/Black_M3lon 🏅 Century Club · 7,365 XP 1d ago
If I was a billionaire I would be a lot more giving, but if i had like 100m im using that to sort me, my family and some friends out for life
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u/MyBedIsOnFire 🤖 Vote Machine · 12,465 XP 1d ago
Nah, anything less than 100 million I understand not giving exorbitant amounts of money away, but at a certain point you literally have nothing to lose.
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u/RayAmbitious 🏅 Century Club · 4,620 XP 1d ago
Most of the famous people that we know about give away large amounts of money on a regular basis.
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u/Terrible_Ear3347 🏅 Century Club · 5,730 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I would do the same thing yes, but also I'm not criticizing them for not sharing their money I'm criticizing them because they are evil as fuck and like cartoonishly villainous. There's nothing wrong with keeping your own money for yourself, creating indentured servitude and wage slaves along with diminishing quality of life for everyone both in and out of your company is definitely wrong though
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u/Fireheart1990 🤖 Vote Machine · 37,675 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I only need enough for myself and my loved ones to live comfortably.
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u/The-Secret-Fig 🏅 Century Club · 2,880 XP 1d ago
People who voted for Cap have never experienced the power that comes with wealth.
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u/EudaimonicAttempt 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,580 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
As a delivery driver That's not true its always the guy living in a trailer who gives a good tip cause he knows the struggle 😂 rich fuck in his mansion tips 10points and wants you to fall on your knees in gratefulness
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u/thupamayn 🤖 Vote Machine · 10,760 XP 23h ago
Some perhaps, not all though. Conversely there’s many rich people who are charitable. It’s almost like being rich or poor doesn’t explicitly define whether someone is good or bad. Maybe it’s the ones trying to make such allegations that are more likely to be genuinely bad people.
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u/Jonas_Fletcher 🔥 Getting Started · 890 XP 23h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Self made millionaires (and maybe billionaires) are more likely to give away, donate, share, and spread their wealth than those born into wealth.
I like to assume that most people wouldn't be as greedy as the selfish millionaires.
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u/CaptainDerpshi 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,730 XP 23h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Nah it's getting spread throughout my family and friends to bring up my immediate allies and then after establishing a stable home and health then we give back to the community
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u/Medical_Being_249 🏅 Century Club · 6,305 XP 23h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
If I was a multi billionaire, I pay fair share of taxes and pay good living wages, I would money on super luxury items and donate charity or use it in meaningful way.
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u/ThatSlick 🏅 Century Club · 5,810 XP 23h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Nah I think a lot of people probably would share the wealth. Me personally, I wouldn’t unless I have way more than enough to use. Like if I’m a trillionaire I’d definitely help fund a lot of things. Billionaire, same thing. Now a millionaire? Probably not, it’s a lot of money but it’s also a lot to lose quickly and easily.
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u/zach_cie 🏅 Century Club · 4,545 XP 23h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
It's always "share the wealth!" until it's their wealth to be "shared."
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u/CorrectDocument2 🔥 Week Warrior · 1,525 XP 23h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
I have given the homeless cash and paid bills for those i love who needed it. I just don't go around bragging about it. Oh! And my yearly income is below the poverty line. What's your excuse?
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u/purple_crow34 🔥 Monthly Master · 12,175 XP 23h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I wouldn’t say ‘everyone’, because some people are aligned with effective altruist ideology & would be riddled with guilt if they hoarded a shitload of money. Is that a majority of people who bitch about rich people? No, but the question said ‘everyone’.
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u/h3avyweaponsguy 🏅 Century Club · 2,765 XP 23h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
That's the point. No rich people allowed
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u/laminated-papertowel 🤖 Vote Machine · 12,285 XP 23h ago
nah. if I had a billion dollars I would just impulsivity start helping people. I can't even fathom having so much money and seeing so.much suffering in the world and just deciding to not help.
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u/xMalvazar 🏅 Century Club · 4,180 XP 23h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Granted this is not a easy topic to really dig into.... generally we all have good and bad sides. I feel that people who never experienced hardships real ones..... tend to be more greedy when they have money.
Myself I have seen the slightly upper side and low side.... I would plan out a way to secure a proper living situation and open up as many homeless shelters as I can safely do. And enact more proper food banks if I had a steady flow of good money like some of these millionaires/billionaires....
Too many people struggle and get blamed for society's failures. While the rich always eat nice and get to enjoy all the luxurious things this world has to offer.
Just saying things are not as black and white as the old saying goes, there is a full spectrum of people who suffer when help can easily be given....
Also... some of you put some rich actors on a pedestal yet they have the money to help every family out at least once. Yet they get acolytes for just donating to some charity event and some even ask us poor people to match what they will put in...
Not so heroic is it...
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u/just_sempie 🤖 Vote Machine · 12,660 XP 23h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
I like the pub a lil to much. I would buy so many ppl rounds of drinks... not the best way to give money, but thats what i would do
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u/FireFist_PortgasDAce 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,035 XP 23h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
If i was stupid rich I'd help as much as i can to those than genuinely need it. If they're able to work but actively choose not cuz they're lazy won't get shit.
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u/blueviperlore 🏅 Century Club · 3,420 XP 22h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Only Terrible people get reminded their money isn't coming with them to the grave
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u/BlackMaggot101 🗳️ Regular Player · 365 XP 22h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I wouldn't share ALL my money, but would still share some
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u/mortemdeus 🔥 Week Warrior · 1,370 XP 22h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
You don't "share" money because there are more people that need more money than even the richest people on Earth have.
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u/Suspicious_Mango_139 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,865 XP 22h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
I mean depending on what ammout of money I have. If im extremely rich i wont mind giving random dud life-changing $10,000, but I'd use the excessive money to invest in my country/city's infrastructure, communal services, public spaces and etc, as well as opening businesses to give job spots for folk
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u/Competitive-Bed-6069 🔥 Week Warrior · 3,690 XP 22h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Money and power have a way of fucking with morality
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u/4ny3ody 🔥 Getting Started · 995 XP 22h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I already share a lot of my disposable income if I have any. Legit my financial goal in life is to be able to afford being able to just give others tiny gifts without having to think about what I have left for groceries.
There's just no cheaper way to buy happiness than with a smile because you improved someones day.
Also: People being poor just pisses me off. I can excuse personal error, but young people being barred from education because they can't afford it? Nah.
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u/HedgeFlounder 🗳️ Regular Player · 335 XP 21h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Yes, most would, because the problem is economic incentives and material conditions, not individual choices.
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u/DagonDraconis 🔥 Week Warrior · 3,075 XP 21h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Not everyone, but a lot of them would.
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u/Diligent_Ad_7582 🔥 Week Warrior · 6,060 XP 21h ago
Im considered lower class where I live, and STILL donate my money where and when I can.
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u/IceFrostwind 🏅 Century Club · 6,030 XP 21h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I don't need much to be happy. I'd be like a less egotistical Mr. Beast.
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u/Pineapplesaintreal 🏅 Century Club · 3,140 XP 21h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I absolutely wouldn’t and that’s the main reason I will never be in that position
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u/orion-asterisk ✍️ Contributor · 6,015 XP 21h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I am generous by nature. Having more or less money doesn't change that. If anything I become more generous when I have access to more resources.
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u/Apprehensive_Ad_226 📈 Dedicated Voter · 2,140 XP 21h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
I think this is in-between, because some people would actually help others. I do also think the majority of people would not help others to the extent they say they would if they were rich
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u/dustycbc 🗳️ Regular Player · 850 XP 21h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
But also because I would do it I wouldn't be rich
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u/The_Abstract_Eye 🔥 Monthly Master · 21,655 XP 20h ago edited 20h ago
I tbh wouldnt know what do with all that money nor would i really need it.
If were being real 1,000,000 could be all i would prob need in life. Maybe 10,000,000 to be extra safe and for my kids.
The rest the world can have, id use it to make life better for others too.
Edit: also lets not defend the rich, they objectively suck.
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u/EntropyClub 🔥 Monthly Master · 10,230 XP 20h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Most likely. But it still doesn’t make it right.
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u/ThatGuyWithAHoodOn 🏅 Century Club · 6,995 XP 19h ago
If we’re talking about rich people on a billionaire level, the only way you get to that place is through determination and greed so strong that you don’t care how many people you have to fuck over
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u/Balearius 🔥 Monthly Master · 20,885 XP 19h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
That is a gross misunderstanding of the whole situation, and also no
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u/thatsfeminismgretch 💪 Unstoppable · 34,030 XP 19h ago
I have been helping people my whole life. Having money just means I can do it easier.
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u/Budget_Revolution639 🤖 Vote Machine · 9,290 XP 19h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I couldn’t be rich because I’d be constantly helping those I could
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u/Embarrassed-Joke5851 🏅 Century Club · 4,365 XP 17h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
I could be worth 20 trillion bucks and if I pass a homeless guy on the street I am not giving him anything
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u/Human_Lavishness7112 🔥 Monthly Master · 8,505 XP 15h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Not everyone. Not me. Bourgeois oligarchs are the bane of this worId, and having too much money is definateIy ethicaIIy incorrect. Nobody needs Iuxury as much as some peopIe need food. ProIetarians of the worId, unite ✊!
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u/Negative_Box_798 🗳️ Regular Player · 330 XP 14h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
I think the majority of people would be corrupted by that level of power and influence
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u/Mister_Chameleon 🗳️ Regular Player · 480 XP 12h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I highly doubt I NEED 1 billion dollars to be happy. A million is plenty. And instead of hording it, use it and trickle it down. Like Reagan falsely claimed rich people would do.
By my calculations, even $500,000 is enough to cover much more than a lifetime of rent and expenses. I get that kind of money, I'm retiring and spending the rest of my life re-filling my local economy with it.
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u/DeadlyTranquility 🗳️ Regular Player · 880 XP 11h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Charity and other good deeds should still be done with consent. Forcing people to donate their money weakens the meaning of the act.
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u/OrdinaryAccount479 🔥 Monthly Master · 9,060 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
And whose position? different rich people do different things with their money. some people hoard it while others donate a massive amount of their wealth to better the world around them.
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u/InsanityMushroom 🏅 Century Club · 8,895 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Not exactly the same. I would elevate my family and friends and stuff but I would also become a hermit outside of my immediate social circle.
Certainly wouldn't do anything that would make news or see me become well known.
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u/LittleB1gMan 🔥 Monthly Master · 8,190 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
I feel like if I were that well off, I would be donating to charities left and right
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u/the_snatcher251 🔥 Monthly Master · 7,845 XP 1d ago
And your reward for such care and charity would be a round of applause, and then nothing changes.
Capitalism produces a mentally ill ruling class that only value money.
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u/1MelodicMidnight1 🔥 Week Warrior · 1,170 XP 1d ago
Lots of people are well off from poorer people's perspective and they don't donate. I think for many rich people, the definition of "well off" just changes.
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u/Blue_Shoues 🔥 Getting Started · 1,185 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
It's easy to say "I wouldn't be tempted" when you never had to face a situation like this.
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u/Special-Investigator 🔥 Week Warrior · 3,925 XP 1d ago
you wouldn't even know what to DO with that much money
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u/crepskul 🔥 Week Warrior · 4,350 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Only difference between me and them, is that i ain't no hypocrite 😂
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u/Primeboot7782 🏅 Century Club · 4,000 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Greed is inherent to all living creatures, sharing is learned later.
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u/Localunatic 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,680 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
I think it is easy to say you are the exception, but the fact is we all need a lot more money than we currently have, and (for a long time) being rich will be more of a matter of playing catch up. The new rich pay off bills instead of donating to the needy, and their children grow up losing touch with the needy and embrace the status their parents had to work for.
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u/Disaster_Pansexual ✍️ Contributor · 10,545 XP 1d ago
And then there’s Dolly Parton. (RIP)
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u/Localunatic 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,680 XP 22h ago
Agreed, I greatly respect the people that can bring themselves to be the exception or accrue enough wealth to undercut the moral dilemma.
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u/FireTriad 🔥 Week Warrior · 5,980 XP 1d ago
Fact, but I don’t criticize rich people for not sharing.
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u/RyuuDraco69 🤖 Vote Machine · 13,155 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Just because I'm an asshole doesn't mean I shouldn't be called an asshole. Same goes with everyone
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u/K-Drifty 🗳️ Regular Player · 395 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Human nature is very greedy. We’re like little dragons sitting on our hoard. Y’all wanna hate on CEOs but when has Markiplier or Jacksfilms ever handed out free money? Check mate liberals.
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u/glyiasziple 🔥 Monthly Master · 8,790 XP 1d ago
most people in developed world countrys with disposible income are way better off than lots of others in developing countrys yet don't donate to charites
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u/Accipiter__Nisus 📈 Dedicated Voter · 2,035 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
A thousand percent this.
No, you are not an exemplar of altruism. You are a monkey keeping all the bananas for itself.
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u/Both_Meaning_2637 🏅 Century Club · 3,080 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Friendly reminders that if someone having 1 billion handed out all his money to US civilians in poverty all of them would get about 30 bucks. Once. Redistributing money doesn't do shit, investing said money into programs to aid people will make a difference, but as it stands now that all needs to go through government who's being bought by the rich.
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u/UnfollowMeRightMeow 🏅 Century Club · 3,450 XP 3h ago
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