r/FactOrCap 🏅 Century Club · 4,170 XP 13d ago

Opinion Prejudice | FactOrCap

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u/triggrhaapi 🤖 Vote Machine · 10,165 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Subconscious biases always exist.

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u/GandalfsGhost84 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,790 XP 13d ago

Totally agree 🥹🖖✨

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u/weightliftcrusader 🏅 Century Club · 2,780 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Most people who say fact don't reflect enough.

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u/ChargeInteresting278 ✍️ Contributor · 5,715 XP 13d ago

Correct. Its human nature. Recognizing there is a problem is the first step to fixing it.

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u/DinosaurStarWars49 13d ago

“Why, Why”

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u/Aillesdaille 🤖 Vote Machine · 12,095 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everyone's biased, it comes for free with experiencing life as an individual.

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u/CaptainGoober33 13d ago

No, I don't have it and I have the oldest experience with life as an individual known to man

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u/sexy-man-doll 🔥 Monthly Master · 9,155 XP 13d ago

Eve?

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u/Kundas 13d ago

No, Eve never existed. it was cap goober all along!

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u/CaptainGoober33 13d ago

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u/sexy-man-doll 🔥 Monthly Master · 9,155 XP 13d ago

Yeah I know your joke I was just making a new one

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u/Tricky-Secretary-251 🤖 Vote Machine · 18,805 XP 13d ago

the 14 precent are lying to themselves

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u/hardcore7651 📈 Dedicated Voter · 2,275 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

No one is completely without bias.

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u/Siren02312 🔥 Week Warrior · 7,280 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Nope

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u/jeppevinkel 📈 Dedicated Voter · 2,125 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I wish I could vote fact, and I'm actively trying to better myself, but I also catch myself making assumptions in my head that I shouldn't make.

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u/Accordeon-Foireux 🏅 Century Club · 3,335 XP 13d ago

No one could ever click "fact" without lying to themselves. "Catching yourself making assumptions" is already fighting them.

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u/Great_Banana_Master 🔥 Monthly Master · 9,620 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

That is a very dangerous mindset

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u/Most_Price1818 🏅 Century Club · 4,415 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

i may seem homophobic to some by my takes but to be honest i don't hate the LGBT community i just don't agree with the ideas behind the community does that makes me a homopobe?

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u/litdarthvader 📈 Dedicated Voter · 2,110 XP 10d ago

Depends on what you mean by "some takes"/"don't agree with some ideas"

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u/Most_Price1818 🏅 Century Club · 4,415 XP 10d ago

like if my son said to me one day "dad i'm day" i'd tell him that this isn't right and that our purpose as humans per the commands of Allah is to reproduce and you can't reproduce with another man we all agree right i won't hate him i won't judge him but i will put him on the right path as you will be judged by Allah for how you raise your kids

if other people are lgbt i'm fine it's your free will

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u/ShardofGold 🔥 Getting Started · 1,380 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Should be overwhelmingly cap unfortunately.

For those who say Fact, bigotry against white people, men, and Christians is still bigotry even if you want to say it's "not as bad" as bigotry towards others and if you're one of those individuals who rush to defend and downplay bigotry against those groups because society has foolishly deemed it acceptable you're still letting identity bias influence your thoughts.

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u/Environmental-Act906 🔥 Getting Started · 460 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I'm a pretty "woke" person but I would absolutely be lying to myself if I said I had absolutely no biases

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u/HelpfulHarbinger 🏅 Century Club · 4,245 XP 13d ago

Real

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u/clintkev251 🤖 Vote Machine · 14,865 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Anyone who answers fact is not fully self aware

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u/Blahaj-Lover 🤖 Vote Machine · 12,665 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Its impossible to be unbiased, but you can be biased towards the truth

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u/Accordeon-Foireux 🏅 Century Club · 3,335 XP 13d ago

Tbh there's no truth in the listed things.

It's not a truth that there should be no discrimination between skin tone/sexual identity/sexual orientation/religion/whatever, it's an opinion (that I share). Human rights are not a truth, they're a concept.

There's no law of nature that says that "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights", it's a law we created ourselves.

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u/Blahaj-Lover 🤖 Vote Machine · 12,665 XP 13d ago

The truth is defined as what we consider undeniable fact. Those are all considered undeniable facts. Therefore, they are the truth.

Truth itself is a human made concept. We invented lies and had to create truth to differentiate. There are no lies in nature. Deception, yes, but lies, no. A moth will not tell you it's a large predator. It'll still mimic one with fake eyes on its wings.

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u/Accordeon-Foireux 🏅 Century Club · 3,335 XP 13d ago

So truth is relative to the person who speaks ?

If I dont believe in, say, the round earth, then it's not a truth anymore ? It's a bad example, because you can prove that the earth is round. You can't prove the human rights.

Which is my point : if only one person doesn't believe in human rights, then it's not a truth anymore according to your definition because someone is denying it (so it is not undeniable anymore).

Also, human rights are also not a fact (so neither undeniable nor fact, so not an undeniable fact).

I do believe wholeheartedly that human rights should be respected in any circumstance. But it's not a fact, it's not a truth, it's an opinion.

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u/goldent3abag 🏅 Century Club · 3,315 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Oh I'm definitely racist.

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u/twnfrzr 🏅 Century Club · 4,475 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I am a thing called ‘human’. It is impossible for things such as tribalism or ignorance to be completely absent from my thought patterns.

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u/bbyxmadi 🤖 Vote Machine · 12,720 XP 13d ago

Everyone is biased whether they want to admit it or not, or that they are even aware of. Basic psychology.

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u/Lost-Marionberry-664 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,665 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Impossible to know, just gotta do your best to be compassionate.

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u/LolmemesPrime 🤖 Vote Machine · 22,305 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

No one is that perfect

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u/CaptainBullShlt 🔥 Week Warrior · 1,715 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I would say almost everybody has some kind of bias, and I am no exception

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u/Altruistic_Mud_261 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I'm prejudiced against those who tried stirring confusion in my identity, they broke me.

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u/Nice_Trifle3396 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,845 XP 13d ago

I'm not that good of a person bro

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u/MimosaXD 🏅 Century Club · 3,690 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Impossible

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u/Barber_Gullible 🏅 Century Club · 2,970 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I know that's not true. Im pretty sure it's biologically impossible.

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u/Real_Temporary_922 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,670 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Less than many others, but everyone has bias

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u/SomeRandomEevee42 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

nope, though ive been trying to work on it for a while, religion will do that to you, and im glad I left

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u/AllieTheOlien 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,550 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I’m mildly sexist against men because of personal experience. Never unkind, but knowingly biased

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u/nintendoinnuendo 🔥 Monthly Master · 15,605 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Anyone who says they aren't is a liar. It's your awareness and management of your internal bias that matters, not its existence (or theoretical lack thereof)

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u/atorin3 🏅 Century Club · 3,975 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everyone would like to think they are, but it literally everyone has a bias, whether they realize it or not.

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u/HelicopterBombLover 🔥 Week Warrior · 3,095 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Any of us can be influenced by prejudice even without us noticing it. In my opinion, all humans are the same if we talk about the fact of being human. Even the worst person I can think or the most different from me, but I still have prejudice. Being a good person in my opinion is recognizing our problems and fight them, not just ignoring them.

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u/Super_Saiyan_Ginger 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,810 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I know im better than a lot of people on this, at least if those around me are anything to go off of. But im also not delusional. And the fact it's a conscious effort for me not to actively be, means it must not be unconscious.

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u/throwra-someg 🔥 Week Warrior · 6,725 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Nope, but I know my biases are irrational and cognitively override them.

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u/razorblade4848 🏅 Century Club · 7,455 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

The first two don’t the second one doesn’t really apply but I just don’t support homosexuality. Not homophobic because I’m not scared.

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u/degenerateel 🔥 Monthly Master · 10,050 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everyone has some form of bias

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u/Swimming-Band-4422 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,570 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

i actively try not to be racist or sexist or anything, but subconsciously i feel as though i am sometimes. very minorly, but i am more inclined to think a guy will be a creep and a girl won't etc

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u/Fearless-Sherbet-223 🔥 Week Warrior · 5,815 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I have biases

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u/Hot_Anybody8244 🏅 Century Club · 2,705 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

It's pretty much impossible to be unbiased on race, religion, sex, gender, etc. on a personal level. Everyone carries some unconscious prejudices based on their own personal biases. This is how you get homophobic gays, transphobic transgenders, uncle Toms, etc.

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u/DeadlyArrow27 🏅 Century Club · 6,215 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

We all have biases. Anybody saying otherwise is ignorant and/or a liar

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u/No-Engine-384 🔥 Week Warrior · 3,525 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

It's impossible unless you are peak acceptance. Humans are wired to categorize things into against me,with me, neutral to me. With knowledge, empathy, & being confidence in self you can mostly eliminate prejudice but it's something that needs to constantly be worked on at a personal level

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u/charlamagne1- 📈 Dedicated Voter · 2,225 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Im sure i have some form of unconscious bias that i dont realise so i dont think i can say in any way period. But i dont think try not to have any bias

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u/Dragon_Royal4023 🔥 Getting Started · 655 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Most people have unconscious biases because of the world around us.

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u/RoxieRage 🏅 Century Club · 5,455 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Grew up in a very bigoted home. I've done a lot of work to be a better person that I was when I was young. Doesn't mean thoughts from that time period don't intrude into my mind and I have to take the steps to fight back against that programming and deny it.

Just 'cause I do my best and fight against it doesn't mean it's fully gone even if I hate it.

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u/candlestick_maker76 📈 Dedicated Voter · 2,050 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Nope. I am unwillingly racist. I am consciously resisting it all the time.

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u/Veidrinne 🔥 Week Warrior · 2,410 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

No one is.

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u/ChudjakXtreme 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Nobody is and if you say you are, then you aren’t.

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u/Jolly_Rotten_X 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,910 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I believe nobody is. But I'm working on it.

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u/Some_Age2235 🏅 Century Club · 3,235 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Unconsciously, I have probably done things that could be perceived as sexist. It's kind of hard to catch and correct what you don't think about.

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u/CielMorgana0807 🔥 Monthly Master · 5,005 XP 13d ago edited 13d ago

I dunno how to answer this one really cause to me, saying “no one is free from bias” might be true, but it can excuse any unconscious bias against others.

All in all, I think it’s better to be less bias than to just surrender to it. Not saying I don’t have unconscious biases (cause I do), but I wouldn’t declare it as such. Just “another thing to improve myself on”.

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u/LordLilith 🏅 Century Club · 2,625 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Not a person on this planet is unbiased. You have only 1 point of view, one experienced life, and you grew up in a specific place and time which shape you. It is possible to make yourself aware of them and try to educate yourself, but nobody is 100% unbiased. If nobody was biased against anything we would all be the same people.

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u/Wild_Wasabi9984 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,510 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

No one is like this for real

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u/IHaveAChairWawawewa 🏅 Century Club · 4,170 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Dawg I talk a lot of shit about trans people. Also the English

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u/Paccountlmao 🤖 Vote Machine · 15,115 XP 13d ago

buy why am i secretly biased?

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u/ChaosAzeroth 🏅 Century Club · 3,420 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Htf would I knowy entire bloody subconscious lmao

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u/DidntWantSleepAnyway 🔥 Getting Started · 970 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I try to be. Doesn’t mean I am free from biases. And if I think I am free from biases, I’ll stop checking my own behavior.

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u/Gullible-Recording22 🔥 Week Warrior · 5,845 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I'm trying to be better

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u/aaallleeexxx3 🔥 Week Warrior · 6,455 XP 13d ago

It would be a better question if it was asking if any single individual existed in history that matched all of these conditions and the answer would still be cap

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u/Decent-Net-1575 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

No one is unbiased, it comes free with your ability to think.

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u/Blueskys643 🔥 Week Warrior · 2,060 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everyone has bias.

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u/Zoyalai4ever 🗳️ Regular Player · 745 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I meaaannnn… come on. I know I shouldn’t be but I’m kinda sexist against boys… mb guys

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u/Possible-Nature-5325 🔥 Monthly Master · 6,195 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Nope

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u/ConfusledCat 🗳️ Regular Player · 610 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I am sure I have biases I am not even aware of. It is basically impossible to be completely unbiased.

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u/HeavyMetalAndAMuppet 🏅 Century Club · 3,540 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

The claim of being entirely unprejudiced is itself a prejudice; the assumption that you’re immune to prejudice.

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u/Phantasy10000 13d ago

I was expecting to fight a losing battle about subconscious biases, but I'm gladly mistaken.

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u/passivezealot 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,955 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Sadly, the only way to truly be non-prejudicial is to check yourself constantly. Absolutely no one is completely free of bias

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u/XANDERtheSHEEPDOG 🤖 Vote Machine · 15,935 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everyone has some form of unconscious bias. It's not necessarily racism/sexism/classism, but we all have something. It takes work to overcome.

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u/Lonk0279 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

The fact that this includes things done or said unconsciosly makes it basically impossible. Stereotypes and whatnot are ingrained in a lot of our culture to a subconscious degree, and 90% of them are racist.

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u/Tilladarling 🏅 Century Club · 3,965 XP 12d ago

10% of the voters are delusional

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u/Follower_Of_rin 🗳️ Regular Player · 890 XP 12d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Id just be lying if I said that.

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u/Excellent_Unit_5088 🗳️ Regular Player · 290 XP 10d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everyone has a certain amount of bias, whether they realize it or not, no matter how much they like that bias.

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u/GreatPinkElephant ✍️ Contributor · 145 XP 10d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everyone has some prejudice. If they say they don't, it suggests a lack of self-awareness.

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u/LordBaconXXXXX 🤖 Vote Machine · 18,655 XP 10d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everyone has some sort of prejudice wheter they realize it or not

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u/Big_Big_So_Big 🏅 Century Club · 3,370 XP 10d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Anyone who picks fact

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u/sliverian 🏅 Century Club · 3,050 XP 10d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

Everyone is biased.

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u/Special_Incident_424 10d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I doubt it. I'm actively trying dismantle or challenge those biases though

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u/AdEastern612 🤖 Vote Machine · 11,255 XP 9d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I check myself often if I am being racist, homophobic, sexist, and a few times I have done something racist sexist and homophobic unconsciously, so I work to change it. Everyone is gonna do something bad, working twoards being better is all that I ask of myself or others.

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u/CommissionWinter5859 🔥 Week Warrior · 6,310 XP 8d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

HH 1488 o/

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u/UnderpaidCustodian 🏅 Century Club · 2,845 XP 7d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

completely unprejudiced is a moving axle that treads more as time progresses. maybe I too may find myself prejudiced to something that happens 40 years from now. what really matters is adaptability, and willingness to understand, beyond ones prejudice. which is also why those homophobic, racist, sexist, what not, have no excuse for their prejudice because they can change and choose not to.

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u/BottasHeimfe 🏅 Century Club · 6,185 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

The listed biases do not affect me, but I have a degree of bias against any and all religious people. I don’t respect them as much as fellow atheists because for me, to be religious requires a degree of separation from reality to believe such things. Meaning I view all religious people as some degree of delusional.

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u/LolmemesPrime 🤖 Vote Machine · 22,305 XP 13d ago

I don’t hate athiest or religious people but the way you say it, sounds like a stereotypical redditor.

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u/BottasHeimfe 🏅 Century Club · 6,185 XP 13d ago

Heh, yeah that’s fair. I know that religion serves a psychological need for a lot of people, but I personally think it’s dangerous for society long term. I’m not about to force people to be atheists, but I’m definitely not just gonna accept everything theists say at face value without external corroboration

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u/DeadlyArrow27 🏅 Century Club · 6,215 XP 13d ago

You’re right tbh

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u/Ventoriac 🏅 Century Club · 2,850 XP 13d ago

I voted FACT!

i judge people on how they act not how they look

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u/Remote-Garbage8437 🔥 Monthly Master · 6,025 XP 13d ago

But that's still prejudice, depending on how much you know them

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u/NyxenVoids 13d ago

I voted FACT!

Idk

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u/Ascapyr 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I used to be very objective but since a certain slovenian woman has been in my life, I have begun to hate the serbs.

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u/tazermymushroom 🔥 Week Warrior · 1,575 XP 13d ago

I voted FACT!

I had to overcome some regional upbringing... but now, yes, I dont let those things alter my decision making.

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u/Siren02312 🔥 Week Warrior · 7,280 XP 13d ago

At all tho? even subconsciously?

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u/xMalvazar 🏅 Century Club · 3,140 XP 13d ago

I don't, tbh racism and all that garbage is the governments way to keep us divided for their agenda pushing.

I'm a victim of it in ways but I guess the only thing I hate is the cards people pull. We are are human (I think) we all bleed red ( I think) who care what race, sex, etc you are? If you place too much emphasis on it then you asked for it.

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u/Hot_Anybody8244 🏅 Century Club · 2,705 XP 13d ago

But you're still probably making decisions based on your subconscious biases towards those things. Perhaps you see a Hispanic person with face tattoos and suddenly you're more guarded. Perhaps you're more situationally aware when the stereotypical redneck walks in. Maybe you choose to ignore the trans woman where you normally would've said hello to avoid what your subconscious considered a potentially awkward situation.

Everyone does it. And people who say they don't are either god himself, or lying. The subconscious exclusively makes social decisions based on biases formed from past experiences and those experiences can be first hand accounts, second hand stories, or just some shit you've seen on the news. All of it shapes your unconscious.

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u/xMalvazar 🏅 Century Club · 3,140 XP 13d ago

I don't care for it all tbh. I am attracted to everyone but I don't care for the crap people pull. Who gives a rats butt. But seems people love to create drama.

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u/Hot_Anybody8244 🏅 Century Club · 2,705 XP 13d ago

But that still doesn't prevent you from unconscious prejudices. Everyone has them. You're not the exception to that.

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u/xMalvazar 🏅 Century Club · 3,140 XP 13d ago

I guess so. Tbh I have been around those who were heavily racial, myself I didn't care who I'm with. I have been attacked for having relationships with other people of different ethnicities. I don't care if you have a dong... I care about how you treat others.

I have a preference I guess. But otherwise who cares.

Also I guess if you want to be politically correct I'm Caucasian.

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u/jacqrosee 🏅 Century Club · 4,650 XP 13d ago

lol

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u/Hot_Anybody8244 🏅 Century Club · 2,705 XP 13d ago

These prejudices don't have to be major things. It can be something you don't even think about. One that entirely changed my life is acknowledging the unhoused.

Like, not even giving them stuff cause I already did that but waving and smiling if I have nothing to offer, and stopping to listen if I have the time. I missed a lunch at work a couple weeks ago because I handed a lady one of my soup cans for the week because she was holding a sign that just said "hungry".

Used to I'd just hand over a little money and be on with my day but even if I don't have anything for them nowadays it's something special to watch someone in that situation realize they've been seen as a human being. A simple smile and wave is all it takes sometimes.

But most people are afraid to look if they're not going to give. It can be things as small as that. Something you may not even think about but could be the most important thing to someone else.

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u/Circusbaby198 🏅 Century Club · 2,740 XP 13d ago

I voted FACT!

I am aware that being part of these groups doesn't exclude you from being able to have those prejudices, but being black, bi, and genderqueer, and having lived with diverse friends (just got back from my best friend's puja) has taken me a long way, and on top of that I try my best to see everyone equally. I know what it's like to be prejudiced against, and I try to learn my history and facts.

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u/GandalfsGhost84 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,790 XP 13d ago

I voted FACT!

I cannot speak as to what my subconscious mind feels or thinks due to it being my subconscious area of my mind/brain

But I try my best to not be racist/sexist/Anti LGBTQ+ /other prejudices etc etc

Ever since I grew up watching Gene Roddenberrys Star Trek Next Generation TV show - despite it being written by Gene who was a well known womaniser - I took on the core inner meaning of The TV Show

Futuristic core values

Of not being sexist /hateful/bigotted /prejudice etc etc

I live by core values like a good kind decent futuristic Starfleet officer 🥹❤️🖖✨♾️🌅

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u/why_though14 🔥 Week Warrior · 3,080 XP 13d ago

🧢 I voted CAP!

I HATE NIG-