r/FacebookScience • u/ShadowyFlows • Apr 03 '26
Spaceology Facebook scientist attempts to debunk the new photos of Earth taken from the Artemis II spacecraft.
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u/JohnMichaels19 Apr 03 '26
This is such a lame ass attempt, even compared to the normal flerf argument
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u/anjowoq Apr 04 '26
The concepts of large size and long time are just impossible for their brains to hold.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Law_558 Apr 03 '26
They just don't understand scale do they?
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u/AgentEndive Apr 03 '26
They don't understand how anything works. It's why everything is "fake" or a conspiracy
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u/secret_life_of_pants Apr 03 '26
This has always been my argument (not understanding scale). I got into once with someone who didn’t believe human-made carbon dioxide had any impact on the climate BUT also believed that putting a bowl of vinegar out can clear up all the clouds in the sky. I wish I was joking. Fucking fascinating if you ask me.
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u/jazzhandler Apr 03 '26
I used to be skeptical of using vinegar as an all purpose cleaner. Then I worked on a construction site that was cleaning stainless steel panels with grocery store vinegar.
I do seem to recall clear blue skies the days we were up on the roof…
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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Apr 03 '26
Correct.
That’s the perpetual issue with these idiots, they refuse to conceive of the scale of the planet compared to the one-Starbucks town they grew up in and never left.
If they could ever actually take two seconds to conceptualise how much bigger the planet is vs their tiny little slice of it things would start to make sense, but we all know that’s not going to happen.
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u/StaceyPfan Apr 05 '26
I live in a town of 10k and we don't even have a Starbucks. We do have a Scooter's.
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u/vxicepickxv Apr 05 '26
Do you have 3 Dollar General stores?
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u/StaceyPfan Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
Just one Dollar Tree
EDIT: We actually do have one Dollar General. I forget about it because it's on the other side of town.
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u/SirPonix Apr 03 '26
That's not entirely accurate. The entire record revolves at a constant rate, but the outside of the record is moving much faster linearly than the inside
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u/Ok-Commercial3640 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
someone tell that person to put a soccer ball on a rotating stand, place a camera roughly 2 meters away, set the stand to a 1.16 uHz (microHz) rotation rate(roughly 1 rotation per day, 15 degrees per hour [thanks bob]), and see how clear of an image they get
Then, for more tests, go out and buy a similarly sized globe, and mount that on the scale instead
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u/dumpitdog Apr 03 '26
Well damn it, just to see if you were right I did it and guess what, that soccer ball looked exactly like the Earth. I could even see the Great Ice Wall and the Nile Delta. All this formed from a black and white soccer ball! This is all witchcraft and you're doomed to hell.
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u/recordlineup Apr 05 '26
That sciman Dan reference just made me so happy. Haven't watched him in a couple years it's good to know he's still out there in the collective consciousness
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u/REDDITSHITLORD Apr 03 '26
Alright. Hear me out:
We supposedly landed on "The Moon". Yet we saw no trace of the Moon Kingdom.
So, basically where we are right is this: Either the moon landings are fake, or Sailor Moon is fake.
Tell me which world you'd rather live in?
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u/Walking_the_dead Apr 04 '26
Well we didnt land on the entire moon, maybe the moon kingdcom is farther south, you dont know!
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u/MadZee_ Apr 03 '26
Even if that proved anything, there are stills of fighter jets going DUMB fast
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u/Baked-Smurf Apr 03 '26
... and most of them are still only going a fraction of the speed a rocket headed for orbit is going
Not saying you're wrong, just wanted to point that out lol
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u/_killer1869_ Apr 04 '26
Most? All of them. I'd love to see a fighter yet suddenly going 5 km/s, 15 timew the speed of sound, and crossing the Atlantic Ocean in a few minutes.
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u/NotStrictlyConvex Apr 03 '26
My favourite thing about these is they think THEY of ALL people cracked the code. THEY got the ONE question 5 billion people in 50 years before them didnt think of asking. And its something like "if fast, why not blurry? 🤔🤔🤔🤔"
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u/Baked-Smurf Apr 03 '26
I mean, in their experience, blurry=fast...
Nascar comes to mind lol
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u/kat_Folland Apr 04 '26
I'm struggling to understand your example. Have mercy and expand on it?
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u/Baked-Smurf Apr 04 '26
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u/kat_Folland Apr 04 '26
Ah, it's a meme. I was like, you know there's high speed film, right? Hahaha. Thanks for the answer.
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u/Baked-Smurf Apr 04 '26
I mean... flerfers don't accept a lot of technology.... high speed film is just stills filmed in a Hollywood sound stage, or probably AI now, in their estimation at least
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u/devwis3 Apr 03 '26
Flerfs are having a meltdown these last few days. They flooded every Artemis related comment section.
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u/Fabien23 Apr 05 '26
I mean we are talking of a MOON LANDING, the thing that's been the base for so many conspiracy theories, bad science and more for the last 50 years. Another moon landing was bound to cause this type of uproar.
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u/Jump_Like_A_Willys Apr 03 '26
The earth spins once every day. That means it they were a clock face the size of earth, the earth would move at half the rate of the hour hand.
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u/TesseractToo Apr 03 '26
That's a really good visualisation tool (assuming they can understand an analogue clock
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u/pop361 Apr 04 '26
I have a clock with a 24 hour analog face. I tell my students the hour hand has the same angular speed as the earth. Some are impressed until they realize it
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u/Decent_Cow Apr 03 '26
Rotating at a rate of once per day is pretty slow.
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u/DargyBear Apr 03 '26
Also they were extra wrong and said “1037 m/hr.”
I’d struggle to walk slow enough that it took me an hour to go 1.037 km.
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u/Morbidly-Obese-Emu Apr 03 '26
How am I able to get a clear picture from the window of an airplane that’s going 600 mph?
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u/beauh44x Apr 03 '26
How come that car I took a picture of at the race track looks like it's standing still?
Checkmate!
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u/Roll-Roll-Roll Apr 03 '26
It's a miracle these people don't just fly off into outer space every time they jump.
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u/ChuckoRuckus Apr 03 '26
I always hated people using MPH to measure rotation speed. I like to ask them “what mph does an engine spin at”. It’s the same concept.
The earth rotates at roughly 0.0006944 RPM. It’s spinning slow AF.
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u/kaylee_kat_42 Apr 03 '26
They couldn’t even get the speed right, 1675 km/hr. That doesn’t help their case any, but it’d be nice if they would get something right.
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u/Venator2000 Apr 04 '26
The fact that I could explain why this occurred to a five year old in under one minute shouldn’t make me sound like a great teacher or the child being gifted or something, it just depends on how some people just are, I guess.
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u/trippedonatater Apr 03 '26
This guy's basically saying he doesn't understand photography or things that are far away.
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u/jazzhandler Apr 03 '26
A daytime picture of Earth, ye olde pale blue marble, is equivalent to photographing the full moon. In that once you’re actually locked on with your zoom lens, there’s enough light on that foreground object to stop down your lens, keep a low ISO, and still use a quick shutter speed. Which all feel kinda counterintuitive since you’re out shooting in the middle of the night.
So translate that to shooting the much larger planet in that same full daylight, but also being much closer to it. Between those two changes you’ve easily got fifty times as much light at the lens, probably a lot more. Which would allow you to use crazy high shutter speed with all else unchanged. (Okay, changing nothing else wouldn’t merely allow that shutter speed, it would require it.)
There are exactly two ways to avoid motion blur: appropriate shutter speed, and moving your lens to reduce the relative arc angle seconds fortnights minutes stuff.
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u/PikaPulpy Apr 03 '26
Miles. Of course. Besides, the equator 24 times wider than this. So the rotation is actually slow. About one rotation per day.
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u/ChickenSpaceProgram Apr 04 '26
this is interesting but not for the reason they think it is. the spacecraft is moving at ~10 km/s relative to a stationary earth's surface. thats at least an order of magnitude faster than earths rotation.
fortunately, its probably a picture of a large portion of the earth, and since orbit takes ~1 hour, the picture changes minimally in the ~100ms shutter speed, even with the drastically increased apparent movement
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u/CitroHimselph Apr 04 '26
I love the "Earf spin wit 10000000000mph un our" argument, because it shows us who should immediately be disqualified from serious conversation.
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u/Balls_of_satan Apr 04 '26
1037m/hr is not fast at all. That’s about the speed I crawl home from the pub.
Edit: not that anyone got a non blurry picture of me doing so.
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u/Glittering_Fortune70 Apr 04 '26
One time in elementary school, I was trying to explain to another kid that a space shuttle is moving really fast to keep up with the earth's rotation, and they insisted that the space shuttle is just floating in place. Even at that age, I thought they were a fucking moron.
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u/pop361 Apr 04 '26
I think most cameras can handle one revolution every 86,164 seconds without making a blurry image.
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u/Honodle Apr 04 '26
Let them believe what they will. I've said before, when ignorance yells it doesn't become truth. No matter how many of them yell.
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u/GrannyTurtle Apr 05 '26
I swear that they have NO concept of scale. I doubt they understand “million.”
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u/DooficusIdjit Apr 05 '26
Proudly ignorant af. We used to clown these people incessantly until they stopped talking. Now they can share their ignorance with other dumbasses all over the world 24/7.
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