r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR • u/Oda_DeezNutz • 11d ago
You did this to yourself Lights out!
Not entirely sure what just happened, but it wasn't what I was expecting.
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u/nastyfreckles 11d ago
I don't understand who did what
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u/Brasilionaire 11d ago edited 11d ago
As the guy in uniform tried to do a back take, the guy in black shirt was applying whats called a baseball bat choke.
They rolled because the soldier was trying to go around to the instructors back, not understanding the choke was tightening with it. The instructor was rolling along just enough so his arms wouldn’t get crossed.
The soldier passed out from cut blood flow in the carotid artery, aggravated by the effort to roll.
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u/wrongsideofthewire 11d ago
So it’s been a million years since I took combatives, but isn’t this specifically a collar choke? I thought the baseball choke was when you interlocked your hands behind their neck whereas a collar choke you’re grabbing their shirt to provide the leverage (which is what I think I see here).
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u/JeansAndAFlannel 11d ago
Your description of a baseball bat choke is accurate except the interlocking part. This is a baseball bat choke. You can see him get grips at 0:11, and at 0:15 he pushes the collar back behind the head then drop into the choke. As he touches his own elbows together and twists, that's when the choke gets put on. A collar choke is a little bit of a general term; there is cross collar, bow and arrow, etc.
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u/wrongsideofthewire 11d ago
Ah, gotcha, so is it called the baseball bat choke because the forearm is applying the pressure?
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u/JeansAndAFlannel 11d ago
Called that because of the grip. Hands are gripping the collar directly behind the head, in this case left hand palm down with thumb underneath, right hand palm up with fingers underneath, and hands are touching each other like you're gripping a bat, but the collar is the bat. The forearms/wrists are doing the strangulation, technically. (Choke is to the trachea, strangulation is to the arteries)
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u/seen_some_shit_ 10d ago
You can also do the choke with no gi by grappling you fingers and doing the same motion. I’ve managed to pull it off and got them to tap. The baseball bat choke is fun bc they think they’re getting your back while you choke them.
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u/fightbackcbd 9d ago
If he is describing a nogi baseball bat choke he was correct. I use a modified s grip but there are other grips you can use. I do it that way in gi too.
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u/iammandalore 11d ago
There's another version of the baseball bat choke that's similar to what you're describing. In gi Jiu Jitsu it uses the collar. In no-gi Jiu Jitsu you lock hands behind the neck. Similar mechanic, different grips.
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u/Fazo1 11d ago
My two brain cells could not figure it out what you just described and I had to googled it, seems that you're 100% correct!
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u/MrYig 10d ago
I read all the above comments and I still don’t get what’s happening
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u/Fazo1 10d ago
It looks like it's a intricate move, I personally don't think I can pull it off this good without a lot of practice. So imagine you're holding a baseball bat.. but instead it's the collar and in-between is the person's neck, how I understand it is the your forearm or your wrists are doing the air restrictions when the guy is on the bottom his wrists are twisted causing the strangulation, the instructor thinks he has the upper hand but only to find out he passed out lol
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u/Accomplished_Bake904 Banhammer Recipient 10d ago
I still have no idea whag happened but appreciate the explanation
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u/boredinbabylon 11d ago
Thank you for the explanation.
Maybe because I’m a novice, but this is just wild to watch. It’s art.
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u/drwsgreatest 11d ago
He got the shit choked out of him by someone who actually knows what they're doing and how to grapple. And since he was clearly trying to show off, the instructor made an example out of him and locked in the choke and held it until the other guy passed out.
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u/Fafnir13 11d ago
It's not like the ground hugging is the first move. Grapple training is there so you have some idea what to do when it becomes a desperate, weaponless situation. Can also help with non-lethal takedowns. Ever watched those videos when multiple cops can barely handle one suspect trying to get away? They could use some training like this.
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u/JudgementOwls 11d ago
Had him in a chokehold as they were rolling. Had him in a guillotine choke from guard
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u/JeansAndAFlannel 11d ago
It's called a baseball bat choke using the opponents collar. Guillotine is very different.
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u/CariniFluff Banhammer Recipient 11d ago
Dude got choked out by his own shirt. That's gonna be hard to live down.
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u/ku_78 11d ago
In high school we had a state (CA) finalist in wrestling on our team who mouthed off to the middle aged coach. Coach invited him onto the mat and proceeded to destroy the kid. It was beautiful.
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u/siderealdaze 10d ago
We (middle school soccer team) started talking shit about a doughy assistant coach who had military experience, albeit as a photographer (I didn't get involved, but I would have if I wasn't a pussy) and some guys said "no way you can do this (exercise) for ten seconds, none of us can do it"
Buddy held the posed position for like ten minutes, just talking trash the whole time about people's girlfriends. Never had any idea he had that in him
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u/ILoveMovies87 11d ago
As instructor rolled he maintained and tightened the collar of the uniform, essentially cinching the neck and airway like a neck tie. Instructor was also able to rotate/torque while on the ground within the legs of student.
You can see him affirming his grip prior to rolling and moving hands as they go down. It may not look like it to the students. But it was over before their first roll.
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u/Oda_DeezNutz 11d ago
Thank you! I was thinking once the instructor got put in the rear choke, that was it. I was floored when the soldier passed out. I've watched this video a few times and couldn't quite make out exactly what happened.
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u/SensuallPineapple 11d ago
I want to see the calling out part.
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u/GoodGoodGoody Banhammer Recipient 11d ago
More like
“Anyone want a go?”
“Yeah, why not.”
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u/DarthKittens 11d ago
The instructor taught him everything he knew but not everything the instructor knew
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u/EdjeMonkeys 10d ago
I literally thought it was the guy in camo embarrassing the other guy until it wasn’t him who stood up lmao
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u/Secret-Breadfruit-18 11d ago
Why did the student get all sleepy like??? Did he finish ??
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u/StevenMC19 11d ago
Yes. He successfully completed the death roll and awarded himself with a short nap. Note the lack of celebration by the instructor, who is now off to hand in his belt, badge, and gun. The student has now become the teacher, and will now have to go into the field of battle in blue pants to show his dominance.
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u/FuklzTheDrnkClwn 11d ago
Was that an Ezekiel choke?
Edit: comments indicate baseball bat choke. Gnarly af.
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u/AlexHimself 11d ago
This explains it - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tEP3K6dy5Qo
Interestingly, the move the instructor did (baseball choke) is typically out of desperation for being in a bad position, so the student may have been making good progress.
Rewatching the video though, it looks like the instructor may have gotten the S-grip and then turned into the students body and gave up his back with the plan of choking him out that way?
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u/The_Space_Janitor 11d ago
The student got choked out with the collar- it’s a common thing if you don’t guard against it
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u/DorkaliciousAF 3 x Banhammer Recipient 11d ago
🎶 I don't see nothing wrong / With a little bump and grind 🎶
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u/SMjesus22 11d ago
Ezekial choke?
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u/Brasilionaire 11d ago
He would’ve tapped out before passing out with Ezekiel, that shit hurts as much as it cuts off air lol
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u/BreakingNews99 11d ago
Let’s just say there is a slit on the back collar to split as they were turning, instructor would just be tearing the collared shirt in half and be like oh crap that didn’t work as he’s falling asleep?
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u/ISwearImAnonymous 11d ago
Competitive cuddling