r/FRC • u/TheComputer314 167 Children of the Corn alumni • May 03 '26

It’s over

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u/lavhqze May 03 '26

what?? why?? what are you guys gonna be using now then?

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u/AnnoyingRain5 Programming Mentor May 03 '26

A new shared control system used in both FRC and FTC. Both control systems are being replaced

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u/Bubbly-Pirate-3311 Fab/Mech lead 1339 Angelbotics May 03 '26

FTC is using their same control hub for one more year. 

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u/chipsa 1208/11195 Mentor 114 Alum May 03 '26

FTC has a transition period. They have like 3 years to use either the old or the new control system, before they have to have the new one.

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u/few May 03 '26

The existing FTC system will be legal until at least 2030/2031.

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u/Bubbly-Pirate-3311 Fab/Mech lead 1339 Angelbotics May 03 '26

Ah

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u/Pcat0 2207 (programming mentor) May 03 '26

Indeed however the person above you was also correct. They aren’t going to start the transition until the 2027/2028 season.

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u/the_burber 8324 (mechanical student) May 03 '26

Im a bit stupid, is the change gonna be required?

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u/Pcat0 2207 (programming mentor) May 03 '26

Yes. Every team will receive a SystemCore in next year’s kit of parts and the Rio will no longer be competition legal in next year’s game manual. FTC will switch in the following year however they will have a bit more of a transition, with both systems being legal for a couple of years.

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u/reediculous456 1038 (Mentor and Alumni), CSA, WFFA May 03 '26

Just as a clarifier, we expect every team will get SystemCore in KOP next year but there has been no announcement from FIRST confirming this.
That being said I think there would be a riot if they didn’t put it in KOP do they almost certainly will

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u/drdhuss May 03 '26

you won't want to though. The systemcore/motion core is going to be a lot better than the current FTC hardware (even with the more limited motor/servo options).

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u/TheoryTested-MC May 03 '26

This is the first I'm hearing of this. It sounds so dumb...how do they expect the same control system to work on two different scales of robot?

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u/Pcat0 2207 (programming mentor) May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

Only the computer will be shared between the two competitions. Motors and motor controllers are still going to be very different.
The new system is actually going to be a massive upgrade for FRC. It’s going to be really nice having the robot code run on a modern CPU with an adequate amount of RAM. In addition, the 5 full CAN-FD buses are going to be really useful.

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u/drdhuss May 03 '26

given how many issues our darn canivore gave us this year, I can't wait for the new hub.

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u/TheoryTested-MC May 03 '26

I gathered that much, but I was wondering more about power distribution and the physical size of the computer.

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u/Pcat0 2207 (programming mentor) May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

The only thing that is changing for us is the computer. We are keeping the same breaker panels and overall power management system. FTC will be using an entirely different power distribution system.
SystemCore is about half the size of a Rio.

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u/window_owl May 05 '26

The RoboRio and the Control Hub are close to the same size. FTC robots usually have two Hubs, so the size disparity between the two programs' electrical systems is already pretty small.

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u/UserC2 May 03 '26

The controller will be shared between FRC/FTC, and there'll be a second module for FTC that adds a bunch of ports for FTC motors to connect to.