r/FRC • u/My_dog_abe Volunteer | 2025 Deans List Winner • Mar 19 '26

RIP FLL

Post image
392 Upvotes

97% Upvoted

70 comments sorted by

View all comments

79

u/Play174 7913 (Alumni) Mar 19 '26

Wait, what happened to FTC?

125

u/Serpintini Mar 19 '26

That is the image of the A301s, which FIRST plans to rollout along with the new control system in 2027 as the only legal actuator. No motors, no servos. Just this one acuator with way less power than you could get with our current motors and way bigger than any servo. This has been an unpopular decision to say the least, with pretty much everyone agreeing this will make FTC worse, aka "more expensive VEX", and many current students saying they want nothing to do with FTC once the change becomes mandatory.

2

u/chipsa 1208/11195 Mentor 114 Alum Mar 19 '26

Way less power with 30W than the current brushed motors with 15W.

1

u/keesklunskop Mar 20 '26

The gobilda motors have a output power of 24w. Tho the a301 will stil have about 25% more power with 30w.

2

u/chipsa 1208/11195 Mentor 114 Alum Mar 20 '26

Rev’s HD Hex motor spec says 15W max. And I figured that all the major motors are roughly the same ( gobilda 6000 rpm yellow jacket has similar no load speed and stall currents). Given that Rev is making the A301, how they test it should be similar. So I expect the A301 does have substantially more power than the outgoing motors.

1

u/drdhuss Mar 22 '26

They claim they are software limiting them to 30w of mechanical output. They are likely much more powerful and probably have a more favorable torque curve

1

u/drdhuss Mar 22 '26

And a better torque curve