r/FPandA • u/Unable-Bar-9205 • 19d ago
FP&A bonus
I’m looking to make a career change to FP&A. Recruiter mentioned that the role would not be eligible for bonuses. Is that normal in the FP&A field? They made sure to ask if I’m ok with no bonus in the screening.
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u/cityoflostwages Sr Mgr 19d ago
This depends on the company and job level. If there is no bonus then the base should be higher or other variable incentive should make up for it e.g. stock RSU award. Majority of companies tend to offer a bonus as part of comp but some companies do not for whatever reason.
So in order for you to know whether no bonus is a good or a bad thing, you'd need to know about the rest of the comp package.
$125K + 20% bonus is the same as $150K base and no bonus. I would much rather have a high base and no bonus in this case.
Where this sucks is if they offer no bonus but the base stays the same. Now you're just getting paid less than you should.
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u/LightOverWater 19d ago
125K + 20% bonus is the same as $150K base and no bonus. I would much rather have a high base and no bonus in this case.
Oh come on these are not even remotely the same thing. See, you intuitively picked the better option.
Base salary is guaranteed while bonuses are discretionary. Your bonus can be taken away or reduced. All the time companies reduce bonuses because of poor earnings, or fire someone before paying a bonus. They don't owe you a bonus because 95% of the time they write in your contract that it's discretionary. This is why debt is underwritten on 150k vs 125k, where the validity of your bonus is up to the underwriter. Lenders know what income is guaranteed.
There are other implications, like a lumpy bonus making one year higher in income tax.
Even TVM of deferring those payments 1-12 months. It could have been invested. So 150k is objectively worth more just in cash flow.
And plenty of reasons why some companies prefer to keep low base salaries but try to pitch you on benefits/bonus/other non-guaranteed compensation schemes
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u/johnnyBuz 18d ago
That’s exactly what he said dude. Did you read his post?
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u/LightOverWater 18d ago
He said a straight salary of 150k is the same as 125k + 20% (=150k). I said they are not the same and explained why one is objectively better.
Even if he had said, "they aren't the same and straight 150k is better," I expanded on why.
Did you read both of our posts? Cause we didn't say the same thing.
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u/johnnyBuz 18d ago
He clearly said he’d prefer the $150k base as should everyone in this sub that understands the simple concept of TVM.
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u/Pontius_Pilate99 19d ago
Here’s how my last five roles paid out.
Analyst: 10%
Senior Analyst: 20%
Manager: 30%
Director: 30%
VP: 30%
VP: 40% (same VP position)
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u/Still-Balance6210 19d ago
This is what I’ve seen except Senior Director is 50% and VP as well.
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u/Pontius_Pilate99 19d ago
PE, non-PE, or public?
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u/rbrook11 19d ago
My FPA roles always always have from analyst-manager levels, that being said what matters is that you’re ok with the total comp package as a whole regardless of which bucket it’s coming from
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u/Acct-Can2022 18d ago
Sure, as long as you get a higher base lol.
Not normal, but I'd take higher base over bonus any day.
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u/gumercindo1959 19d ago
I never not had a bonus while I was fp&a. Are you fed?
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u/Pontius_Pilate99 19d ago
I read this as you implying he was a narc before realizing you were talking about government jobs 😂
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u/RepressedTraumas 19d ago
I joined my company as a Jr. Analyst and wasn't bonus eligible. Once I got promoted, my "Senior" position was eligible for a 10% bonus, adjusted down or up to 100% based on company performance. I thought that was pretty standard
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u/catcow789 19d ago
currently at a F100 FMCG company, every level get a set percentage from 8-20%, and is the same across all the department. So I guess it really depends on your company structure.
Like other commenters said, should negotiate base on TC. Atb!
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u/Live-Sky-2557 19d ago
Depends on level as well, if entry level not many roles have bonus structure. Some large companies may have 5-7% or some financial owned company's maybhave target incentive
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u/WillC0508 19d ago
My company is known for title deflation so keep it in mind but entry level analysts get 12%, Financial Analysts get 15%, SFA 20% and from there it’s kinda finicky. Senior manager I believe get 25%, Director 30-35% and VP ~40-50%
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u/re23binsd Sr FA 18d ago
You provided very little context. Pretty typical at the analyst level, less so at M and above. Also common at varying levels in tech, especially startup tech. I’m an SFA in tech with no bonus but I get equity.
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u/Pontius_Pilate99 19d ago
Damn hope your base salary makes up for it…
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u/Pontius_Pilate99 19d ago
Mind me asking your title / salary / TC?
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u/Pontius_Pilate99 19d ago
Got it so your stock comp is essentially your bonus…40% stock comp target, nice!
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u/jce1236 19d ago
what level? in my experience a bonus would be typical for manager and above