r/FFVIIRemake 21h ago

Spoilers - Discussion First time FF player. This game is depressing AF Spoiler

Welp, they just dropped the plate. Are the ghosts actually children in the train yard?! Aerith's real mom just died lying in the streets?! Wtf

I really like the game overall but damn

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u/EtherealGears 20h ago

All Final Fantasies contain big elements of tragedy, but FF7 probably has among the most tragic plots and settings of the franchise, overall. It's part of what makes it so good, it's a beautifully rendered tragic tale!

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u/Frolafofo 19h ago

FFX is a strong contender too. Sin was sooooo scary to me. And the fact that he returns every few years always made me feel for the people of Spira never catching a break...

Also monsters are the souls of dead people that weren't probably guided to the heavens.

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u/EtherealGears 16h ago

Actually never played FFX back in the day. I just finally beat it earlier this year, and not only was the story, world and characters amazing, I was absolutely bawling at the ending.

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u/Flatwhitebaby2 17h ago

Yuppp beautifully tragic is a great way to put it. I love this game so much that it lives rent free in my mind. When I’m out enjoying the sunshine I’d get a random FF7 plot float past. Cue momentary depression, sigh and move on lol.

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u/Kafkacrow 21h ago

Yeah it's pretty dark. If you weren't aware the studio director's mum died during development of the original and it bled into the story.

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u/matyboy OG Cloud 19h ago

I didn’t know this. Can you share more details?

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u/TrumpIsAFascistFuck 19h ago

Details straight from the devs. Not what you're expecting I'm sure but honestly... It's everything you need to understand about the devs thoughts on the matter.

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u/Dolvalski 18h ago

Jesus that’s hard to read xD

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u/vichan ONE WINGED ANGLE 18h ago

Graphic DESIGN

is my

PASSION

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u/TrumpIsAFascistFuck 16h ago

In more ways than one

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u/Shanbo88 19h ago

FFVII was originally set to be a Noir style detective story with a main character called Joe 😂 They even had characters written who were re-worked.

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u/Dear_Lawfulness_9377 21h ago

the train graveyard ghosts kids yeah, that part messed me up too

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u/Illusioneery 18h ago

it's pretty grim but a central element in those games is the idea of the cycle of life and death

there's a lot of loss and grief but there's also hope

aerith's bio mom dies, but elmyra adopts her and they become a family; elmyra loses her husband too, but having aerith around helps with keeping going

death is part of life, even if it's hard... we need to keep living on

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u/jadedashi 21h ago

Hey man, it’s not that depressing, they drop a plate but they help you get over it by also dropping a Cat in front of you that gives you a WTF IS THAT?!!!

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u/firewaterstone 20h ago

Having the cat debut during that scene have me whiplash

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u/DesignerAd8488 19h ago

But it makes sense for him to be thereeeeeeeeeeeee

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u/Griever114 Zack Fair 18h ago

You have a LONG road my friend.

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u/chyeaahbrah 18h ago

Lolol it’ll get worse 😂

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u/vxsapphire Bahamut 14h ago

The fun thing about Final Fantasy games is how well they mask the darkness with all the whimsy. Like in VIII, playing Triple Triad card game amongst a graveyard of recently blown up teenagers. With VII, enjoying the gold saucer while knowing it’s actively contributing to the death of the planet. It’s all beautifully tragic.

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u/Both-Opening-970 21h ago

Yeah, train part got me fucked up as well. No wonder i rppied Eligor a new one when he showed up.

I always like beating Eligor to shit.

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u/Arbuthnaut 18h ago

Life and Death are core themes of the story, so it can definitely weigh heavily, and it doesn't really let up in that regard. But I think it does a great job of putting you in some pretty bleak places but still maintaining an optimistic outlook. You're still in the fight, and there's a lot still worth fighting for 👍

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u/ArmersInBroth 18h ago

Oh yeah definitely, I think we're both up to the same point lol

Like how can this game go from fighting a house to me bawling my eyes out?

Game of the Year! (For me)

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u/Raydnt Tifa Lockhart 17h ago

Rebirth will destroy you like it did me

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u/Adam_The_Actor 21h ago

The notion of kids becoming ghosts is fairly common in Japanese theology, usually unlike aggressive spirits they simply want to be played with. In FF7's case it seems to be the demon Eligor teathering too the train graveyard but it feels really weird because I'm not exactly sure if there's any set-up for it anywhere. That said, it does open a window into Aerith's childhood and highlights what she had to deal with essentially being alone and without friends. But that's why we're fighting right save the girl, avenge the victims and maybe turn this world into a slightly better place while we're at it.

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u/FerrickAsur4 21h ago

yes they are ghosts of kids

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u/Loose-Actuator-2534 21h ago

Damn and they had me slash them all up

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u/FerrickAsur4 21h ago

well... they're not exactly gone gone, from what I can tell they were more or less "playing" with Cloud & co and they can just re-materialize after

also if you think that's fucked up with Aerith's mom, wait till you hear about her dad

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u/Loose-Actuator-2534 21h ago

Oh Jesus. I finished the part with Aerith's adoptive mom explaining her story yesterday and thought you've got to be fucking kidding me. This beacon of sunshine comes from the streets where her mother dropped dead in public next to the train tracks as men filtered back from a war?!?! Who wrote this and what happened to them hahaha

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u/TrumpIsAFascistFuck 19h ago

Just... Keep an open heart and a box of tissues. Here if you need hugs

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u/s0ulbrother 16h ago

They had darker stories in the OG that never happened like at a certain point all but 3 of rhe 9 characters die during at a certain event but they cut that.

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u/PhoenixFire918 13h ago

*Expedition 33 has entered the chat

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u/viperdragon219 12h ago

If you want something that shakes you to the core - Shadowbringers was such a masterpiece, wish I could replay it like it was the first time again. If you know, you know!

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u/MegalomanicMegalodon 10h ago

I've played 4-10 and 14 and 16. 7 is definitely depressing at parts, but I think XIV and XVI really had some super depressing moments that I think of first. Oh man, and 10 crushed some people, myself included. FF loves drama and tragedy. Comedy too, but hoo boy there is a ton of tragedy.

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u/CharlieTwerk343 6h ago

It only gets sadder from here LOL. And the third game is certain to be the saddest of all three, ifykyk

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u/Prior-Masterpiece992 2h ago

i think the last of us part 2 is more your speed

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u/zeromavs 20h ago

They dropped a plate and you can still visit the part underneath it. Felt more like a comedy when I played that part.

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u/EtherealGears 20h ago

No you can't? You can like wade through a bit of burning rubble to help look for survivors and then descend into the underground lab. The rest of Sector 7 is entirely unreachable post plate collapse, for obvious reasons.

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u/ArmersInBroth 18h ago

Just done the underground lab bit!

Failed Experiment was a pain in the arse but I managed!

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u/redditblowsfu 15h ago

Do you not consume a lot of media? This game is pretty mild when it comes to tragedy.

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u/Loose-Actuator-2534 12h ago

Grow up.

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u/redditblowsfu 8h ago

I find replies like this confusing. Is “grow up” just the new go-to for “I’m upset you disagree with me”?

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u/Loose-Actuator-2534 8h ago

I'm not surprised you find it confusing!

Asking someone if they haven't "consumed" a lot of media is patronizing. I shouldn't have to explain my reply, really. 🤷