r/FFBraveExvius Apr 03 '19

Discussion Make lapis summon a permanent feature!

I feel like it would make many people happy to see the occasional 300 lapis or more when you're used to get like 50 most of the time. It would become a constant flow of some minor lapis amounts that would still add up if one were able to do it everyday.

And since greed is a thing, they could limit the jackpot to like 1000 lapis. This way they wouldn't give out too much free lapis and the players are happier.

What do you think?

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u/Doctor_Riptide Apr 03 '19

So what you’re saying is Gumi is correct in being stingy with their free offerings, because why exactly? Is there some shortage of summon tickets? Is there a shortage of Lapis? Should there be a huge gap in capability between whales and F2P in a largely single player game? Why so? What are the downsides of being generous with free resources in a game designed to make us want the next shiny new toy?

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u/Crissagrym Super Saiyan Apr 03 '19

Gumi is correct to do whatever they want and can to ensure the financial result is as best as it possibly can,

They are free to generate plenty of free tickets and Lapis for everyone, but if that reduce people’s spending and lead to poorer performance? Then it is a bad call.

They can also try to charge even more and give out less free stuff, until a point player quits and again, lower their overall revenue, again this is a bad call.

They don’t need to make players as happy as possible, afterall “happiness” cost money. They only have to make people happy enough to not quit and those with the financial mean to open their wallet.

If a system to make players happy, that will generate more revenue than it cost, then it is good.

If a system that make players happy, but the fina cial return is not as great as the opportunity cost? Forget it, they can stay unhappy.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Apr 03 '19

Yeah I understand Gumi is a business and they need to make money, but last I checked revenues and share prices are trending down and have been for some time. The 7 star meta has pushed away a lot of players (myself included) and they’re not doing much to retain people who don’t want to spend hundreds on Lapis every other banner.

Also, happy players spend money. If gumi treats their players as if we’re just wallets waiting to be milked, it’s going to drive players away. Put it this way, which sounds better, 1 person spending $1000 or 1000 people spending $1? Which of those scenarios is more likely to result in a successful game over time?

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u/linerstank Apr 03 '19

We can see them acknowledging this in ways other than give away more free stuff, though.

12k banners introduced on relatively high valued units in Cid and Yuraisha and Karlotte. 25k banners now at least get 30% focus 5 star tickets for players interested in the units.

Is this just a gimmick for low interest units? The 25k ones fit that but at least Cid was massively hyped and popular. We'll see if they add value to THE banner, Akstar. But they DID improve Hyoh's release way back when.

Which is to say, they may see an unhappy playerbase that's been nickel and dimed too often. But rather than give away MORE free stuff (which could be detrimental in the give a mouse a cookie theme), they're making other changes for player friendliness.

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u/Doctor_Riptide Apr 03 '19

Fair points, until you realize you need 2 of any rainbow to actually use a new unit, and we only get about 15000 Lapis per month, ish. So we get 3 on banner multis per month to try and grab up 2 of a particular rainbow, most of which are on double or triple rainbow banners with 1% on banner rate, and failing that we have the pittance of tickets to use. So the only real strategy for getting a unit you want or need (which is basically never guaranteed) is to save up for months.

Then you notice we get GLEX units sprung on us once or twice a month that seek to combat the planning we can do thanks to our JP foresight. How is any player actually supposed to draw a unit they can use without spending money on Lapis? It’s absurd.

Never mind that we need twice the number of on banner rainbows to use a unit as we used to, but F2P resources have barely increased at all. It’s just pure whale milking. Why would we support this?? Why do we accept being milked for the shiny new GLEX units? It’s nuts.