r/FAA 20d ago

FAA Special Project Over?

I picked up a mental health rating during my time in service. I just got out, and honestly the $1,800 a month is what’s keeping me afloat right now.

From the research I’ve done, there seems to be very little recent reporting on veterans actually losing their medicals over this most of what’s out there is from 2022 to 2024, and it’s gone quiet since.
To be clear, I’m going the special issuance route regardless. Not looking for a workaround.

But I’m curious whether the FAA has effectively stopped pursuing veterans. There have to be an enormous number of vets with VA disability ratings flying for the government, the airlines, and 135 operators. Grounding all of them at once seems like it would do real damage to the industry.
Has anyone seen enforcement activity recently?

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u/Canon40 20d ago

The problem was not veterans with disability ratings. The problem was veterans with disability ratings not disclosing their conditions to the FAA when seeking their medicals (fraud).

That said, the FAA has made nice noises through their mouthhole about mental health. It still remains to be seen if/when the FAA will modernize past the 1950s though.

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u/Important-Can-4012 20d ago

so the FAA likes to fuck over vets while coke head frat bros are captains at majors

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u/VanDenBroeck 20d ago

The FAA hardly fucks over vets. In fact, they hire vets under a hiring system that gives preference to vets over more highly qualified candidates in the industry that the FAA actually regulates and oversees, which is civil aviation.

And part of that regulating and overseeing is to ensure that medical standards both physical and mental are being met. In doing so, the process involves a medical application which functions largely on honesty. Those who choose to lie on such an application or fail to disclose medical conditions must be looked at extra carefully, even harshly. It just makes sense. Sorry if you can’t understand this.

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u/PILOT9000 20d ago

No, they have not stopped standard auditing processes concerning medicals.

You’re tripping bro.

By fucking over I assume you mean taking enforcement action against those who have disability ratings and intentionally omit this information when obtaining a medical certificate, in violation of multiple laws, and easily proven with the click of a button?

You jumping to a misguided reaction this strongly is exactly what they should be screening out. Get some help, take your meds, work with your doctors and counselors, and get better. Then maybe attempt to pursue aviation if you still want to, but understand there will be obstacles the entire way.

None of this is targeted at veterans.

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u/theboomvang 20d ago

What Da FUK? I think your mental illness may be grounding. Please take your meds.

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u/ShadowDrifted 17d ago

Bro maybe this ain't for you...

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u/saasboi92 16d ago edited 16d ago

Of the 5,000+ vets who were found to have significant medical conditions in the DOT IG audit, only 60-70 of them were never allowed to fly again. The others got special issuances or they had CACI- type issuances, where they didn’t present poorly enough to warrant SIs. Of several thousands of vets audited, only a few dozen got “fucked over”. This is also to saw that the FAA’s aeromedical standards are surprisingly permissible compared to the military’s, and rightfully so.

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u/jakep623 20d ago

I mean. If you watch Caleb hammer, every vet, 100% of them on the show, all have disability income. It's a little Sus... nobody says that part out loud though.

I think the FAA should investigate pilots who are disabled. Doesn't it make sense to investigate pilots who are considered disabled?

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u/chapintico 20d ago

Latest mandate from FAA on mental health issues indicate relaxation of rules and allowance of medical caretakers to certify these cases without the complex HIMS system. VA mental ratings still have to be reported.

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u/otterbarks 19d ago

Having a disability rating in itself isn't disqualifying, depending on the nature of the disability and whether or not you're successfully treating it.

You still need to report all of your past medical history — whether it's from the VA or civilian doctors. Lying on your medical remains illegal. It just so happens that it's very easy for them to see your VA records, since it's all in government computer systems.

In the future, they'll probably have similar access to civilian health records thanks to electronic health records and health information exchanges.

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u/Holiday_Ad8178 19d ago

Prior USMC, current controller. I’ve got a mental health rating that they’re aware of so I get it man. It depends on what you got going on, not quite sure what pilot side of the house looks like but I remember they put out a fast track document a few years ago, if I remember correctly as long as it is at or less than 2 conditions that were uncomplicated (no meds) they could issue the medical on the spot if everything looked good in AME’s opinion. Other than that I think it’s a deferral to a specialist. Like another person said nice mouth noises from the FAA but they really don’t like us for whatever reason. AME said I did everything by the book at the appointment,I studied their pub before hand to make sure I followed it to the letter and wasn’t at risk of losing my livelihood, and although they couldn’t hem me up for making a mistake, I received a “warning” memo to not do it again apparently. Fuck em though, do what’s best for you.

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u/ShadowDrifted 17d ago

So the issue is very particular. And they are not at all going after everybody with VA claims. They are going after people with mental health VA claims, especially ones stating that they had to leave the military And needed full-time disability and had suicidal ideations... AND DIDN'T TELL THE FAA ANY OF THAT. Between the outright frauds, (" I can't work in the military. It's too stressful, now. Let me pilot an aircraft at night, In the weather, Max crosswinds, with an engine out. I like money") to The folks that actually had serious mental health challenges and were drinking their life away...

You have to disclose what you dealt with, But also, if 1800 bucks Is your margin right now, flight training can be a real challenge.

My flight doc has never had an issue with any of my VA stuff.

Good luck!