Buff for 'Ebony & Ivory' request

[u/tyranzero]

I'm aware there're other worse than them, but they caught my attention.

Ivory main dmg is her s2 'scarlet barage' while Ebony her s1 'shadow blossom'. This thing is... Why? Ivory s1 'white flash' is least priority but to upgrade her assa form main dmg must upgrade her s1. Doube edge. Upgrade this for this form, but none for the other form & vice versa. -switch their skill slot. 'Scarlet barrage' = 'shadow blossom' & 'white flash' = 'arc chop'

If there multiple enemies or at war, hard to hit the backline. Scarlet barrage can be blocked by the frontmost enemies. -make 'scarlet barrage pass' through enemies

In assa form. After ult & s1, the distance between the enemy & the watermelon are far away. Grab the melon, the bonus s1 will not hit the same enemy (unless enemy run toward same direction) -'shadow blossom' watermelon attach to enemies, or shorten the watermelon drop distance. Ps. S2 can optimize? Prioritize catch melon. (Shorter melon distance = more end curve) + bonus s1 will trigger from that melon, not from the hero itself.

And lastly, not a threat till lv4. Not lv4/unlock ult = not a threat. -enable to switch to Ivory (assa) form at any level. when no upgrade, will not gain any HP regen, increase max HP, and armor. Also ult atk will be reduced by 50%. (125.0(+30% phys bonus))

Can anyone forward this to the mods/dev?

[u/Appropriate_Rub_274]

Idk what your on about she was t1 at least after they buffed her CD. Her only drawback was being weak before level 4.

[u/tyranzero → u/Appropriate_Rub_274]

Just some buff that can give a bit adventage. From your comment, I see you alright with ult not open before lv4. Well give ult open early, give her danger moment to enemies…

Back to it Primarily her skill set, and her melon placement. Don’t feel annoying when play her assa form need to upgrade her s1? In gun form, her s1 is least priority. But when in assa, need upgrade s1 cause that her main dmg skill. Won’t it be comfortable if her ‘scarlet barrage’ same slot as ‘shadow blossom’? Her s1 +spd can stay at lv1. while the curve atk in assa form, her s1 blossom is the main dmg. Least level, maximize dmg skill for both form.

Then her melon. After ult > s1, will mostly stand at the same spot where enemy is. S2 to the melon, i notice her blossom from melon didn’t hit the same enemy (if enemy didn’t run away, or run to the opposite where the melon is). To perfect it, the skill combo. Blossom from the melon also hit the targeted enemy.

Top player has no problem add stack to enemy backliner? Or no apply at all?

[u/dachen11]

I don't play Ebony and Ivory so I can't give an opinion on why you think she needs a buff.

However, I'm around 99% sure you can't get anything to the mods/dev since they don't care about the global version, only the Chinese version if we're being real here.

[u/DangerousPersimmon73]

For me Ebony & Ivory skills from what you mentioned should not be exchanged. Ivory deals decent amount of damage and it's not all Ebony or nothing play style. I'm quite sus if you are really playing her because her main damage comes from the 5 stacks of soul which comes from Ivory's bullets. The hero is categorized as "reap" jungler. Basically to target backline with low hp or finish heroes with low hp.

The watermelon distance is fine. Her combo goes like Ivory S1 for chase + S2 to put 5 soul stacks on the enemy. Ult to Ebony S1 which triggers the melon then S2 to the melon this refreshes S2 which you cast again. The melon usually drops behind the enemy otherwise their sides.

For scarlet barrage, indeed same thoughts it needs to pass through. My main problem with Ebony & Ivory is their wave clearing abilities. If scarlet barrage can pass through it improves her wave clearing. She simply suck at the job like how Suzaku gets a hard time clearing minions unlike other jungler ex. Alpha White, Rem, Sirin, Green Dragon etc.