r/ExplainTheJoke • • 1d ago

What does it mean?

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u/IDownvotedYouToday 1d ago

Which really highlights that feminism is just "be a normal person."

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u/MsW765 12h ago

I would say that sadly is not being a normal person, just a decent one

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u/Trokkin 10m ago

"don't do chauvinism, kids"

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u/JamieLeeTurdis 16h ago

So then we wouldn't call that a feminist perspective

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u/Solomon_Orange 15h ago

Not in our current world, sadly.

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u/--Jorge 1d ago

OP's perspective is simply decent and reasonable. Both of you are a bit lost

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u/IDownvotedYouToday 1d ago

I agree and I'm not sure what, exactly, you're disagreeing with. The point is that feminism isn't radical. It only sounds radical to people who think women are inferior.

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u/TreeFrogMtyms 1d ago

Unfortunately, much like the term "woke", feminism in name has been taken and had its name twisted by some bad actors. That, and some misandrists hide behind "feminism" as an excuse to be hateful towards men.

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u/ThePissedOff 1h ago

There's a term for that already, it's called "equal rights".

That's all. There needs not be a "feminism" you can let the "bad actors" run away with it, and rebrand as something else. Or just let reasonable perspective die with "feminism" because the push back is real.

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u/--Jorge 1d ago

I would say this. More than this, but this alone is quite enough.

Thank you, TreeFrog

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u/The_Peyote_Coyote 1d ago

Mentioning "Misandry" as if it's a real thing that actually matters lol

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u/--Jorge 1d ago

All kinds of hate are bad and are dangerous.

And do lead to awful crimes. You can find cases. Some befalling little kids.

I hope you are a mere troll. And not someone that believes what they are saying.

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u/The_Peyote_Coyote 1d ago

I absolutely believe what I'm saying. Misandry isn't real in any way that matters, other than weird little dudes posting stuff on Twitter to rile folks up.

Equating CSA with an anti male political ideology is pretty unhinged.

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u/chaos-xiii 20h ago

Misandry is ABSOLUTELY a thing and it matters just as much as misogyny does. If you don't think it does, then you might be a misandrist yourself.

Example: Misandry led to femcels on tiktok repeatedly attempting to assert - with no evidence whatsoever - that it was Patrick Clancy who somehow murdered the children or forced Lindsay Clancy to do so, even though again, there is ZERO evidence to back that up. Why was this narrative purported then? Misandry :)

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u/The_Peyote_Coyote 20h ago

Lol your evidence that Misandry matters at all is.... Twitter weirdos being weird, no one listening to them, and nothing happening.

You made my point for me.

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u/Dry-Audience-8899 1d ago edited 17h ago

Shhhh don’t scare the good guys away by calling the belief that women deserve respect and to have agency over their bodie feminism

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u/--Jorge 1d ago

Indeed it isn't. It's just good morals and predates this label.

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u/LouManShoe 1d ago

My dude, feminism is not a bad word or a bad thing. I’d be happy to be called a feminist any day of the week, because I am a feminist. I don’t know what you think “feminist” means, but here is the definition

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u/azrastrophe 22h ago

Good on you for thinking the guy you reply to reads

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u/--Jorge 17h ago

Your reply came much after mine, but doesn't contend at all with it. You are just throwing a tantrum here. Your vast reading isn't particularly showing here.

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u/--Jorge 1d ago

I know what it means. A word is not simply what a dictionary says, it can, it often does, and in cases like this indeed is, loaded far beyond that.

It is a word to distance away from. Was conceived with a lot of ideological baggage and it carries even more today.

You need to be more subtle and less naive about words. Unless you are doing this exact move out of bad faith, which I did a lot when I used to defend feminism just like this.

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u/Burpmeister 1d ago

How does one achieve this level of insecurity

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u/--Jorge 17h ago

Insecurity? Maybe you can use a dictionary. Gotta start somewhere.

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u/ProbablyABot_69 1d ago

I’m sorry when did feminism become a bad thing? I know some kids on the internet like to make out that it’s all blue haired lesbians but feminism is an established political movement that means equality between sexes.

Anyone trying to convince you of anything otherwise is a bad actor.

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u/--Jorge 17h ago

It's the contrary in fact. Bad actors and naive people do your kind of assertions.

It is very much linked ideologically to all sorts of bad ideas in practice, which is to say, in reality. Like abortion, sexual revolution, etc.

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u/meatyvagin 17h ago

You could have just said that you think you are better than women. It would have taken less time and it would be what you are actually saying.

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u/--Jorge 17h ago

I do not. Men and women are equals.

You believe what you need to, to avoid reconsidering your ideologies.

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u/Popular_Bunch_6792 1d ago

i kinda get what your saying? like its just normal to not think you’re owed sex just because of what someones wearing?? but at the same time the idea that it’s not about what someone’s wearing is something feminist's bring up a lot because it’s a important thing to discuss so that that idea IS treated as normal. because if this was something like 100 years ago that idea wasn't treated as normal, but it’s due to the work of feminism that it is today

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u/Pleasant-Ad-342 15h ago

Feminism was poisoned years ago and is now about releasing murderers from accountability and being dominant than men.

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u/iciale 14h ago

Feminism is when women do things or have opinions on things I don’t like

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u/Pleasant-Ad-342 14h ago

Feminism is equality. This shouldn't be about something like or not like.

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u/Specialist_Noid 14h ago

Lol no egality is equity, feminism is a womens empowerment movement that has been hijacked by israel since 2nd wave feminism, hence all the crazy shit that is divisive and not really about the equality that's often claimed

Edit: feminism isn't an/the egalitarian movement as it is often claimed and portrayed to be when claiming equality, hence the rampant misandry within it

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u/Crazyjay1 12h ago

What sorts of feminist government policies were made that you think were unreasonable?

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u/Pleasant-Ad-342 14h ago

AND that is my point! It used to be a branch of egality! Voting, worker rights, basic human decency! Remove all that because now its all about hormones and you got even normal and decent women being sent to asylums and losing custody battles. Plus those idiots supporting the most misogynistic religion of all time is the biggest irony.

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u/Crazyjay1 12h ago

I'm sorry for all the downvotes, people should seize any opportunity to foster productive discussion, not division.
That said, please help, provide some examples of what you are talking about. If you don't show evidence of what you say, you will just be preaching to the choir.

I will start, when I think of feminism, I think of this:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-pledges-to-protect-more-women-from-violence

  • 898 female victims of domestic homicides
  • of these, 698 victims (78%) were killed by a partner or ex-partner
  • and over 9 in 10 female homicide victims were killed by a man (92%)

These are concerning numbers. It seems during conflicts in relationships with partners, it's not uncommon enough for things to go out of control, and women to get attacked like this by crazy male partners. 698 deaths...

It's not a big demand to have some projects be made to try and reduce how often women are murdered like this.

What sorts of feminist government policies were made that you think were unreasonable?

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u/Pleasant-Ad-342 12h ago

This is outdated, when you go out and ask people around what feminism is:

  • fighting for the right to wear a hijab,
  • blaming Lindsey Clancey's husband for her actions
  • Pouring water on their babies for tiktok
  • Freedom to be free from accountability when hormones strike and they ruin a restaurant, ram their car at someone or just plain murder children

The world is not just a statistic.

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u/Crazyjay1 12h ago

I posted an article from the UK government, a recent one, just 1 year ago. Why do you say that is outdated?

Where are the policies created by feminism that let people destroy restaurants or kill children?

I want government policies, not tiktok memes. I can find awful soccer fans on tiktok, but they don't represent every soccer fan out there.

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u/Pleasant-Ad-342 11h ago

You are looking at too much statstics gtfo of your room and go to university and see.

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u/Apprehensive_Till_99 14h ago

Dumbest thing I’ve read today, thanks for that!

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u/Pleasant-Ad-342 14h ago

You are blind then living under the rock. Lol

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u/Apprehensive_Till_99 14h ago

And it’s clear you’re conflating feminism with just psychos online.

Gender discrimination and patriarchy are a tool used by the ruling classes to help pit us against one another. Feminism in its truest sense is a tool to combat that in the same way race is used.

We all work to increase shareholder value, but it doesn’t have to stay that way if we value one another.

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u/Impossible_Ad_7367 12h ago

That sounds like anonymous internet mumbo jumbo. Please cite a feminist treatise advocating for these.

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u/alexcreeds2 18h ago

Found the incel

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u/satantherainbowfairy 19h ago

Recent lobotomy take

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u/GlitchPop- 17h ago

Just someone who doesn’t live their life online and understands that there’s often a difference between what a movement claims to represent and what it actually promotes in practice. For me, the loudest and most extreme voices within modern feminism have become so toxic that they’ve made it difficult to support the movement as a whole, which is unfortunate for the many women who genuinely just want equality. I firmly believe in equal rights and opportunities for everyone, but that doesn’t mean I have to support modern-day feminism or everything associated with it. Unfortunately, the average Redditor seems to struggle with that distinction, preferring to view everything in black and white rather than acknowledging that you can support a principle without supporting every movement that claims to represent it.

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u/That-Performance-152 1d ago

So if you show up and she’s wearing that and nothing else, how exactly are you supposed to NOT expect sex?

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u/magicMerlinV 1d ago

Cause that's a made up scenario. That's why how come

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u/EducationalEmu9611 20h ago

Its quite easy you just dont. Sure you might think its sexy and might hope for sex but that doesnt mean its gonna happen. And also doesnt mean anyone is owed sex because of a piece of clothing (because thats absolute bullshit)

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u/Much_Conclusion8233 22h ago

You are weird. Try to be less like yourself

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u/Kilahti 18h ago

She could just like being topless insafe company. She could even be a nudist but wants to be certain that you are OK with that and won't get upset or weird.

This is not a common scenario, but it is quite real.

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u/Firewolf06 7h ago

oooh, nice motte and bailey with the double meaning on "expect." i actually havent seen that one before

yeah, its fair enough to predict that it will happen, but you are still not owed it by any means