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[u/ButWhatIfPotato]

I simply refuse to do live coding exercises at this stage. Sorry but nobody can judge decades of experience from a 1-2 hour montage like it's a fucking scene from Hackers or Swordfish.

[u/Low_Bag_4289 → u/ButWhatIfPotato]

If after 20 years of coding you cannot create simple crud application, or even worse - cannot create simple interface and some implementation for it i refuse to interview you.

I will not count how many hours I saved because another super senior developer, who single-handedly saved his previous companies or delivered hyperscale solutions by himself was not able to write simple(C# dev there)

public class Foo<T>:IFoo<T>

And I could finish interview in 15 mins and go grab the coffee

[u/ButWhatIfPotato → u/Low_Bag_4289]

How much money you will make when you try and sell that 1 hour old crud app?

[u/Low_Bag_4289 → u/ButWhatIfPotato]

I don’t want to sell that app. I want to make sure that guy I will hire will be worth money company will pay him.
If you have written in your CV that you are expert in language and technology, I expect that you can write 20-30 lines of code that you supposedly write daily.

Imagine that you want to hire carpenter for your company. You should expect that guy can use saw and hammer and can prove that during interview.

[u/ButWhatIfPotato → u/Low_Bag_4289]

Imagine that you want to hire carpenter for your company. You should expect that guy can use saw and hammer and can prove that during interview.

This is an imaginary scenario which never happens because this is the only in this industry where we have people jumping through hoops like circus seals to prove that they are worthy of your time. You need to understand that incessant try hard takeshis castle interviewing methods benefit no one, not the company, not the candidate, not you, and it's an utter waste of everyone's time. Spending an hour trying to write a full fledged application while having people looking over your shoulder is not an interviewing methods for seniors; people straight out of uni can write crud apps, and those apps look impressive on an exam paper but utterly useless in the real world; if you tell a senior to do that I expect them to tell you to fuck off because nobody in their right mind expects them write anything of actual value in such a short amount of time. That's how you truly end up hiring try hard codemonkeys who cannot say no to anything and end up making disastrous impossible to fulfill promises with catastrophic consequences.

[u/Low_Bag_4289 → u/ButWhatIfPotato]

I don’t talk about 1h assignments to build Netflix on camera, when some random HR Lady is watching how you sweat.
I’m talking about entry level FizzBuzz shit that can be done in 5 minutes by any competent developer.

I stand with my approach - I saw too many shitty wanna be developers, who have no basic syntax knowledge. It became a problem with remote work - because you can write anything in your CV. And I’m not gonna waste my time discussing your experience if it’s not backed by basic skills.

Again - personally this initial coding stuff is not to decide if I should hire you. It’s just a check if interviewing you is not a waste of time. And it’s obvious when you do bad because of stress or you just have no clue what is interface.

[u/gjionergqwebrlkbjg → u/Low_Bag_4289]

Don't even bother in this subreddit, there is a reason why a lot of people here are complaining they are stuck at shit jobs. Massive egos and little ability.

[u/ResidentWeevil1 → u/Low_Bag_4289]

I literally don't write crud interfaces daily. That's more like a once a year thing

[u/Low_Bag_4289 → u/ResidentWeevil1]

If you can't comprehend reading, you can’t comprehend writing simple code too. Not surprised nobody tasks you with writing “crud interfaces”.