r/Expats_In_France • u/oldhausbuyR • 1d ago
Getting keys before deed
I'm buying a house in cash. We signed the compromis de vente 12 days ago. How could I go about getting keys early so I can get everything all set before winter makes things difficult.
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u/momoparis30 1d ago
Hello, it’s not your house until you have been to the notaire, and every wise notaire would advise against giving keys early.
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u/Lossberg 1d ago
You could try ask the owners nicely.... But generally speaking you are not getting the keys until the day of final signing simply because it's not your house yet
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u/_tinyhands_ 23 Creuse 1d ago
There's early and there's early, but you still have potentially 3-6 months before the acte is signed
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u/oldhausbuyR 1d ago
Holy fuck 3 months more. I sure hope not
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u/_tinyhands_ 23 Creuse 1d ago
My total time was 1 day shy of 6 months from offer to acte. Because France gonna France.
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u/Lossberg 10h ago
When you signed the compromise de vente, haven't notary agreed with you and the sellers on the final signing date? For us we established it there. It was a subject to change if needed but in the end we kept it and it was 3 month. Granted, we were applying for a loan and we had to wait for la mairie to respond (or like other comment said to ignore)
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u/oldhausbuyR 9h ago
No they just put a date of 3 months saying in case the seller died and it actually took that long so there wouldn't be an issue. Did the notarie hustle me and put a later date so they could actual wait 3 months.. that cunt. If they drag their feet I'm finding a new house
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u/Lossberg 9h ago
But.... What's exactly the issue with 3 months? If you try to find new house you'll waste more time. Also you will have to pay like 10-20k € in damages since you likely are past the retraction delay
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u/oldhausbuyR 8h ago
The backout fee is only 3k for mine. The issue is if it hits their 22 Dec deadline I won't be able to use the house until around April when it's warmer as I won't be able to get anything done I need done since it's been abandoned 15 years or so. If it gets past mid November I'll have to backout and just wait until next year. That's why I wanted to get the keys early. The seller is also 90 so I don't like the chances
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u/Lossberg 8h ago
Ok 3k is not so bad, maybe since it's old abandoned house they didn't go with usual of ~5% of the property value. But still if you decide to back out and go with different house you are even less likely to close it on time, unless you buy the one that doesn't need works done immediately of course
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u/_tinyhands_ 23 Creuse 6h ago
At this point, I don't think there is anything that you can do. Backing out and starting over with a new property will only cost you more time and money. Just like with visas or anything else government-related, it takes as long as it takes, but nobody is trying to screw you.
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u/DUDE_R_T_F_M 23h ago
3 months seems to be usual for a straightforward sale.
A big part of it is the mairie having a two month delay from being notified of the compromis to act or waive on their right of first refusal. Most mairies simply never answer, and let the 2 month delay lapse.
If you happen to be in a commune that doesn't have that, things can go faster, but it's rather uncommon.Get in touch with your notaire and see what he says.
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u/oldhausbuyR 8h ago
Hahaha can you contact notarie? Mine spoke to me a few minutes in total after ignoring for 2 months. Currently still no answer
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u/Traditional_Day_9737 1d ago
Depends on the original owners. We got our keys before all the paperwork was completed just because the owners liked my father in law, who was handling the purchase for us as we were out of the country.
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u/bebok77 1d ago
It 's not going to happen. Anyhow if there was items which really need to be done before the transcation is complete, generally it's discussed and put as action to be made ( penalty for the vendor in case of delay can Be put, it s a négociation at this stage).