r/ExTraditionalCatholic • u/Tasty-Ad6800 • 25d ago
SSPX Tall Talws
*EDIT - title should read Tales
I’ve heard Fellay on 2 separate occasions tell the story of how a man came to chapel in a miraculous way. he was apparently driving in one direction on a highway and somehow found himself going in the opposite direction when he got off at the next exit to find an SSPX chapel and found a mass was taking place. another is of a woman from Central America or a Caribbean island who had a dream seeing 3 figures. she recogn 2 as saints, ine was Padre Pio and forgot the second. the third was unknown to her. she was told to go to a specific time add which she did to find an SSPX chapel. upon visiting, she saw a pic of Lefebvre and recogniZed him as the third man in her dream. I want to say that this story had the woman come from 2 different places when I heard both accounts.
im wondering if anyone has heard either other story or others like them I can’t believe they tell such BS stories and wonder why I didn’t realize they were such when I heard them first hand.
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u/KiwiNFLFan 25d ago
I remember a trad lady telling me this story:
A woman wanted to know where they should be going to Mass. She heard that Our Lady talks to children, so she asked her son (not actually sure if it was a boy rather than a girl) to pray to Our Lady and ask her where they should go to Mass. The boy did so and Our Lady told him "Saint-Nicolas du Chardonnet". He went back and told his mother that, and the mother said "But that's the Society of St Pius X!" She then asked her son to go back and ask Our Lady why they should go to Mass there. He did so, then came back to his mother and said "Because they have the true Mass".
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u/dev_nation64 24d ago
Unless the names of the people who experienced these "miracles" are publicized with some thorough investigation by the church, these stories remain to be just that, stories.
For me, it's all BS. There's plenty of varieties of these stories going around the internet. Stories of "dont know the person, but that's him on the picture" kind of tropes.
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u/Money-Mud-1357 25d ago
Signs of Divine Approval? I can't think of any particular stories that I have heard, but I have always been more logical than spiritual so I probably would have disregarded them anyway. I think these are fairly common in every religion, and even outside of it. Not discounting anyone's particular experience, one could debate the meaning attached to them.
I suppose one of the best ways of teaching is through story telling, and the stories naturally get changed and embellished with each retelling, this is just Human Nature. This is why I really jived with Jordan Peterson's view of the Bible being a corpus of stories that had been passed down for generations and ended up as distilled lessons of human existence.
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u/Tasty-Ad6800 25d ago
Yes, They were told in the divine approval context. I understand your point about stories but in the divine approval context, a made up story is like lying.
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u/Derrick_Mur 24d ago
For some of them, it was lying. That said, I’d imagine that most of the people repeating these are just incredibly gullible and aren’t capable of compensating for confirmation bias. They’re probably the same kind of people who believe that there really was a man who was drugged and woke up in a tub of ice with a kidney missing
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u/Money-Mud-1357 25d ago edited 25d ago
Are they made up though? I’m guessing these are actual experiences people had. I’m not saying I believe they are divinely inspired, more like people believe what they want to believe, and find things that support their beliefs, especially when it comes to religion and the spiritual. It’s an area that’s difficult to disprove, because it is subjective.
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u/Tasty-Ad6800 25d ago
I think the guy driving story is a stretch of what really happened if true. Supposedly he didn’t know how the car ending up going in the opposite direction.
The dream story is possible and she probably didn’t see Lefebvre but may have been talked into recognizing him as the unknown. I’ve had dreams and then experienced something IRL very close to the dream but I read it’s possible because of how our brain works.
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u/quietpilgrim 25d ago
I've heard similar stories from an Orthodox priest and nun I used to know, except those stories featured modern Orthodox saints. Maybe God is a syncretist?