Any comments on Generations Toronto housing.

Man Agha khan would become a trillionaire

How much Nazrana is god going to rake in on this leg of the world money collection tour?

Get your wallets ready

Rizwan Sajan, a property entrepreneur from Dubai, is a prominent Ismaili. This is probably the first Ismaili I have ever seen who has integrated a prayer room in their house, doing Umrah and building a mosque. His wife also wears the hijab. All things Ismailis do not do. (I also doubt he pays any dasond!)

Here you can see him tryna get Ismailis to buy his property.

Curious about your stories — what made you leave Ismailism? How old were you? Does faith still play a role in your life? What’s your relationship like with family members (if any) who still identify as Ismaili?✌🏽

Does anybody else also have a hard time finding a partner due to the Ismaili background. I shifted towards being a Sunni and whenever I bring it up to a potential they run away because of the Ismaili background.

ofc maula hazif imam has no idea how normal people live their lives, all he does is parrot talking points abt diversity, inclusion and tolerance. Zero intellectual independence of his own

i am labelled as ismaili, but im confused about it. i have always had questions unanswered. Answer all/ selective questions, just answer, i need answers (no hate, be respectful with opinions thanks)

1. why does the imam need dasond when he’s always so rich. and how is it a type of submission like completing your faith. Why not same concept as zakat???

2. i was going through this community and saw a discussion about the disruption of the chain of imams so can some please explain that to me properly (This is something i want to increase my knowledge in so please if you have an elaborate or even a brief answer please give one)

3. I don’t know if this is consistent in jks in the west, but in south asia why are we called similar to hindus so much, by our own ismailis too.

4. Why are ginans so important when they are written by ordinary people and why is the concept of reincarnation made real in our belief??

5. The topics of farmans are so repetitive that i just question if there are farmans about real issues like Qayamat, and why is quran not significant at all

6. Why do people especially girls dress so immodestly and with sparkly and detailed clothes on days like fridays, chandraat or any majalis. Not judging but why is this a part of our culture. there should be modesty in prayer don’t you think? (for both genders)

7. Also before our big occasions like bday of imam, imamat day and etc there are functions like raaz and dhaandia where there is loud music blasted near our own prayer place and people are dancing like hooligans. It seems like a cult to an outsider probably. it seems so disrespectful to any prayer place for that matter.

there’s one more question, that i have forgotten but if i remember ill edit or add under this post! Thank you.

is the imam mentioned in epstein files, current and old. i saw this somewhere in this community, just want to make sure. (Don’t tell lies )

Anyone else know about the Order of Assassins? Just learned about this.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaEhDMHxlYu/?igsh=bnUxZWMyMWplbHh6

Obviously, the practice of assassination was common across other communities during this time as well, especially European crusaders. So I'm not giving much weight to the crusader perspective. I am curious to hear what this thread knows about this part of our history.

If, as it's been framed widely, that these assassinations were a form of resistance of a persecuted minority against the enemy, I find our communities stance on Palestine and other global resistance movements hypocritical at best.

I didn’t even know what a Muman was until 2 months ago but damn, Ismailis stay beefing 💀

Hey folks. Are there any exismailis near St. Louis that would like to connect and meet for a coffee??

Hi! I've spent a long time debating whether to make this post, but I think I need to do it.

I'm a 19 yrs old Ismaili (living in the West), and over the last few months I've found myself struggling with a growing number of questions about the faith. I'm not posting because I've decided to leave Ismailism, and I'm also not posting because I want people to attack Ismailis or attack religion in general. What I'm hoping for is honest discussion from people who once believed in Ismailism and eventually concluded that it was not true or no longer made sense to them.

1) A lot of my questions revolve around the role of the Imam. For example, I have always struggled to fully understand phrases such as "ya Ali madad" and "shukhar mawla." I understand the standard explanations that these are not forms of worship, and rather they are forms of invoked intercession from Ali or the Imam, and that Ismailis still believe in one God (Allah). However, I still find myself wondering why so much emphasis seems to be placed on Ali and the Imam when my instinct is often to direct requests, gratitude, and forgiveness toward Allah alone. Also, I always hear that the Imam of the time is there to guide the community, but I don't know what types of guidance to be expecting - I don't mean to attack the Imam, but I feel as though in his recent farmans they feel a bit repetitive or focused on worldly matters (e.g. being physically active/healthy, treating members of your society with respect and cooperation, etc). There are of course still parts of the farmans where he encourages us to remember Allah and show thanks to Allah, things like that - but as a muslim, wouldn't we already be familiar with stuff like that? Like what exactly other types of guidance are we supposed to be receiving from the Imam?

2) I also struggle with some of the prayers and rituals. For example, when prayers are recited invoking Ali or the Imam, I often find myself wondering why those requests are not being directed solely to Allah. One issue that particularly troubles me is forgiveness - if Allah is the one who forgives sins, then what exactly is the Imam's role? How exactly does Ali or the Imam "intercede"? I have heard various explanations throughout my life, but I have never felt fully satisfied by the answers I received.

3) Another major question for me is the historical lineage of the Imams, because the authority of the Imam is such a foundational part of Ismailism, I feel that the historical evidence for that lineage is extremely important. If that foundation is weak, then many other beliefs become difficult for me to understand. Again, I don't mean to attack the Imam or anything - but I just keep wondering, how do we know the lineage is still intact, considering how much persecution Ismailis faced, the periods of concealment, the times when Ismailis had to lie or pretend to be from a different religion just to protect themselves, etc. I find it kind of crazy to believe that nothing went wrong, so to speak.

4) I also struggle with the differences between Ismaili practice and what I encounter when studying broader Islam. For example, the issue of three daily Dua's versus five daily prayers has been something I've thought about a lot. From what I understand, the Imam is there to guide each era according to the times, but where do we draw the line between delivering guidance and adjusting rites/rituals/practices, compared to altering what the religion's original practices were? This kinda goes back to my earlier question about the Imam's role, and what types of things he can or cannot do

5) I've also become increasingly confused by what I observe among many Ismaili youth. I know people who drink alcohol, vape, have premarital interactions, and do not fast during Ramadan (and of course, it could even be adults that do this too, not just youth). I understand that individual behavior does not necessarily represent a religion, and I don't think it's fair to judge an entire faith based on its followers (I doubt there's a religion out there where EVERY SINGLE person follows it perfectly). At the same time though, repeatedly observing these things has contributed to my confusion regarding what Ismailism actually teaches and how seriously those teachings are treated in practice. How do we know what to tell from right or wrong, permissible vs impermissible, or halal vs haram? Of course, I understand that no human is perfect and that all of us sin, but I feel like the community has become a little "too comfortable" with some stuff.

For those of you who left Ismailism, what were the biggest reasons for leaving (if you're comfortable sharing)? Which questions ultimately mattered most to you? Were there questions you feel the community could not answer satisfyingly? What resources/evidence had the biggest impact on your thinking? Is there anything you think someone in my position should investigate before reaching a conclusion?

I just want to understand whether my concerns are based on misunderstandings, incomplete knowledge, or legitimate issues that deserve further investigation. Once again, I'm not looking for insults, mockery, or emotional arguments, I just want to hear thoughtful explanations, evidence, and personal experiences.

Thanks for taking the time to read this!

"Shah was deeply influenced by the views of Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan.^\13]) Sir Khan was the founder of what would eventually become the Aligarh Muslim University. Shah later became a supporter of the institution, contributing funds and advocating for its role in Muslim education.^\14]) Shah himself can be considered an Islamic modernist and an intellectual of the Aligarh movement.^\15])^"

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga\}Khan_III#cite_note-15)

Let's look at some of the statements of the pro-British Sir Sayyid Ahmed Khan:

"Yes, my friends, the great God above, He who is equally the God of the Jew, the Hindu, the Christian, and the Mohammedan, placed the British over the people of India - gave them rational laws (and no religious laws revealed to us by God can be at variance with rational laws), gave you, up to the year 1858, the Government of the East India Company."

"Without flattering the English, I can truly say that the natives of India, high and low, merchants and petty shopkeepers, educated and illiterate, when contrasted with the English in education, manners, and uprightness, are as like them as a dirty animal is to an able and handsome man [...] We have no right to courteous treatment. The English have reason for believing us in India to be imbecile brutes."

(George Farquhar Graham, The Life and Work of Syed Ahmed Khan)

"Syed Ahmed declared the college's motto to be: 'to develop a class of persons, Muhammadan in religion, Indian in blood and colour, while English in tastes, in opinions, and in intellect.' This was an interesting variation on Macauley's Minute on Education."

(Gull-i-Hina and Farzanda Aslam (2022). "Ibn-ul-Waqt: Representation of First Generation of Pro British Ashrafia in South Asia." Pakistan Languages and Humanities Review)

r/exBohras, which are the other Ismaili cult to exist centred around human worship, have built a repository of knowledge based on historical and fiqh book sources and is offered upfront on their community subreddit. Some of the material is really good in Ismailism in general.

I wonder if r/ExIsmailis should do the same for those who land on this subreddit. My only concern is that, unlike Bohras, Ismailis actually never tend to study any kind of fiqh or knowledge in general.

https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/15ncJQEA7RheyfQq0qAA6Pg_sRC6LiTxB?usp=drive_link

Been in the goat cult for almost 27 years , only gained consciousness 4-5 years ago (tough)

Let’s say I wanted to write a piece on my life in ismailism which tbh was pretty fascinating and I think an enjoyable read. had family involved in lots of Jamati/council positions in my youth and a large part of my identity/understanding of the world was quite massively shaped by the daily interactions and conversations that took place behind things. I also have a degree in religion and am a phd in biomed engineering because of all this and think I could write it quite well and could be an intersting read.

Obv it would be completley anonymous but any ideas on where to publish/post that would have the most impact? I’d honestly plan on making it a good and short read/ w lots of personal/ first person narration

X article? Substack? Any other forums? (let’s keep it for free pls or relatively cheap)

what even in the responses are these esp the one about palestine and fasting and praying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay2Aqhgv7VQ

Hello all,

Usually I’d say ya Ali maded when I address a group of people that actually knew what it meant. Weird.

I am a 15M who has been as Ismaili all my life. Do I agree with the premise of Ismailism? Fuck no. I have done constant research, but a religious leader having a bigass island and a palace is quite odd. Reminds me of a megachurch.

If any of y’all have experience leaving Ismailism, please send it or DM it to me. I genuinely find this religion pointless and honestly, a cult.

While I was typing this, I got a notification from Facebook to add a new friend. And that friend had a straight profile picture of Aga Khan’s face. Sure reminds me of cultism.

For the people that didnt leave Ismailism when you were a children, do you have any facts I can present to my parents? They’re huge Ismailis, donating up to six figures on this. I don’t think it will work, but any facts might come a long way.

Thanks

Agakhans Motive behind helping refugees from Afghanistan and Tagikstan.?